Ultima VIII - Pagan

[Guest_stevedub_*]

I can't seem to get past the part after the guy gets his head chopped off. My guy says " What just happened?" and then it stops. I also can't get the patch to work like some one mentioned above, I get the "incorrect paramiters" or whatever it says.

[NoLongerTheAvatar]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 26 2006, 12:51 PM) 263657</div>
one more thing, what's the maximum points for strength, dexterity, and intelligence, i can't boost them up more than 25, is it the maximum they can get or is there another way to increase it?
[/b]
That is indeed the maximum, as far as I remember. One trick to increasing your strength and dexterity right at the start, by the way, is to immediately attack Devon (the fellow who pulls you out of the sea at the beginning). He will not fight back or call Beren the Sorcerer, and being a game-crucial character, is immortal. Keep hitting him until your Strength and Dexterity are at a satisfactory level, and although he won't talk to you for the time being, later he will forget your nastiness and talk as normal.

[Vaikunta]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(NoLongerTheAvatar @ Nov 2 2006, 10:00 PM) 265073</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 26 2006, 12:51 PM) 263657
one more thing, what's the maximum points for strength, dexterity, and intelligence, i can't boost them up more than 25, is it the maximum they can get or is there another way to increase it?
[/b]
That is indeed the maximum, as far as I remember. One trick to increasing your strength and dexterity right at the start, by the way, is to immediately attack Devon (the fellow who pulls you out of the sea at the beginning). He will not fight back or call Beren the Sorcerer, and being a game-crucial character, is immortal. Keep hitting him until your Strength and Dexterity are at a satisfactory level, and although he won't talk to you for the time being, later he will forget your nastiness and talk as normal.
[/b][/quote]
That method indeed works but it is not impossible to go through the game without it. Ghouls are the main source of experience for me. If you have enough patience to save often, it shouldn't be the problem. But anyway, intelligence won't go up and the only two methods I know that work are reading and casting tons of spells.

[Saphire]

Just go to the library in Tenebrae where Benthic is staying (in the beginning), find the shortest book and begin to read it again and again. Be sure to not abort the reading of the book with double-click but to "finish reading it" (it must have been a single click, I don't remember anymore). With some patience you should be able to raise your intelligence few points (best 20) which is actually also quite enough for the rest of the game, and the remaining points will come later through casting magic.

[Carcaroth]

Man, this game is awesome. I remember that it was the first game in which I felt kinda desperate, specially cause it was supposed to make you feel like this: lost in a world that is not yours, where you don't even know what can make you harm. It's perfect.

[Scatty]

I didn't feel desperate when I first started to play this game, but it certainly had a special, enchanted mood for me. Before I got this game I saw some screenshots of the beta version from the net, and the graphics of the game caught me like no game before. That was long ago, when I just began to discover the computer games, and this game is still one of my favourites.
There's no need to hack at anyone in the game btw. to increase strength and dexterity, all you need is just to go somewhere where no one would run by mistake before your blade, draw your weapon and begin to swing it with the right mouse click all the time. Takes time but makes you right in the beginning of the game quick and strong.

[Mighty Midget]

I always started the game with jumping like a madman in front of Devon- Sure, it takes as much time as any other trick, but I think "the sticky key" worked in this one. Go put the kettle on, and return some time later to return to your adventure.

[Vaikunta]

I found a way to preserve your mouse buttons in Pagan, since you must constantly double-click to fight and so... Go to your control panel and go to accesibility (or something like that, it's the green guy in a chair) and then mouse. Enable the use and configure it so as it works when Num Lock is deactivated. Then, in the game, just press 5 in the keypad as if it was your mouse left button.

[Vaikunta]

Doch, I know I am double-posting. Hope this isn't a grievous crime...

I found two great things in the net just today. One is a remake of Ultima 9 with the Morrowind engine. It is called Ultima 9:Redemption and the site is this one (http://cfkasper.de/ultima/).

The other thing is this other site with an article (lack for a better word) about how Origin was swallowed up by EA. The Escapist - Conquest of Origin (http://www.escapistmagazine.com/issue/14/4)

Another thing that came to my mind was that I read somewhere someone said that character portraits wouldn't be necessary with the high-resolution of Pagan... But how can they expect us to notice anything from those 9 pixel height faces? The only thing I managed to discover about facial expressions is that Devon's eyes are blue.

[Guest]

i had a manual of ultima VIII

[Siegfrid]

THis site is AMAZING. Thanks a lot.


How do you run VDM and Dosbox simultanously?


When I run u8 in DosBox, it says


Filename =sound\sound.flx
Mode = ReadOnly
Error = 1930
Dos Error=0000
Source=FLEX\FLEX.C (84)
Program halted by code



Can s1 pplz help me run u8??
Thanks

[Mighty Midget]

Excuse me, but why on earth would you want to run VDMSound and Dosbox simulatously? One should be enough, I think. Try run it through VDMSound only and see if that works.

[The Fifth Horseman]

How do you run VDM and Dosbox simultanously?[/b]
Question: How do you wash a single pair of pants in two machines?
Answer: You don't.

[HomerDOHSimpson]

If you install U8 from your original floppies the game extract some sort of file and there is this message "don't abort process...blah... you have to reinstall". I wanna play my german version and after the gamefile ist extracted i run it in dosbox and it works... until i exit the game and restart, then comes "fault you have to reinstall"
Since on Abandonia is the english (working) version i wanna know how this problem was solved. I this a dosbox problem (Read/write prob of the hdd's during)? I have no real dos environment.

[HomerDOHSimpson]

It was the U8SHAPES.CMP - it extracts to U8SHAPES.FLX.
In my case the rest of the .cmp file is not deleted (17kb) but the .flx has the same size like the english one. I deleted the .cmp manually and hope that no error occurs.

[Guest]

hi guys. im having trouble with the game. btw, it rules :) im stuck in the part when one is to become the necromencers apentrice, right after the ritual. the one performed after u give the serpentine dagger to its prior owner. after the three zombies are summoned by the grey guy and he speaks the magic words, there is an earhtquake, then it becomes stuck, the earthquanke doesnt stop. have u had also the same trouble? how do i fix it? thx

[Guest]

Do you play it in DosBox, under VDMSound or just in plain Windows XP? If in Windows XP, there you have your problem, DosBox solves it well.

[Saphire]

Did you try to load a game before the dagger has been returned? Maybe it's just a bug.

[Guest]

thx guys for the replys. the bug solved itself. i pushd pretty much every key on my keyboard, when i hit the f5 or f6 key (quick-save, i think) the tremor ended and the grey guy put an end to everything ^^ finally, now i can become his apprentice and raise the dead to obey my commands!!! muahahahah :P thx anyways

[Guest]

the necromancer doesn't take the dagger. there is no dialogue option to give it to him and no other way.
how can i solve this problem. i MUST play it to the end^^.
plz help me

[RyuRanX]

Humm I'm trying to play it on new DosBox 0.70, it's fast and the sounds is OK, but the colors are all wrong. The menus and intro are OK, it's just the in-game graphics that are strange.

is this a compatibility issue?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Does the same occur on 0.65 and 0.63? Also, care to show us a screenshot of what's happening?

[Some1 who stumbled upon Abandoni]

I am going to download this game because it looks fairly good for a old game. Is it wise to start playing this even if you've never played it before? Or is this one of those games you can only enjoy if you used to play it in the way back? Just wondering if its worth it.

[The Fifth Horseman]

It's one of those games you can happily download and enjoy without knowing it before. Most of those on the site are, since while their graphics might look a tad outdated, the sheer fun from gameplay is superior to that of many modern productions.

[grzes]

nice game. climate like in divine, best rpg for me

[Scatty]

Indeed, a great game that Origin created back then. Too bad they didn't finish it due to the time pressure of Electronic Arts (today renamed to EA Games)...

[zirtik]

hi, i play the game using dosbox 0.70 but i've run across a problem. i'm in stone cove and i need to create a golem to open the big double doors. i cast the spell, the screen shakes and parts of the golem appear on the ground however it never comes completely out of the ground. i can give it instructions but it does not move so i cannot open the doors and i'm stuck. did any of you get a similar bug? do you have any ideas? any cheats to open the door?

[Scatty]

Die it happen every time you reload the savegame and summon him again?

[zirtik]

yes, i've loaded previous saves and tried again (in other places) but it's always the same.

[Scatty]

Well, maybe far-fetched, but open the file DOSBox.conf and search for the line [dos]. At ems=true change it to ems=false. If it doesn't help also disable xms, or play around trying to enable one and disable the other cross-over.

[zirtik]

thank you for the reply. i tried it but it didn't work. i also tried different combinations of the settings but none of them worked. i'll download pagan from another source and try again, maybe on a different computer. if everything fails, i'll try pentagram (too bad it can't load save games). thanks

[Guest]

HI

i can't play this game
when i try to run it it shows:
Halting in file DOSFIX32\DESCRIPT.C, line 284
Program halted by code.

Any Help?



obs: i don't use dosbox because my computer is old and run it very slowly, but i run
most games from this site with no problems.

[Mighty Midget]

What is your operating system? You could try the DOS boot disc downloadable from Abandonia.

Also, there is alwys a chance your download is corrupt. If so, you need to get a working copy.

[Guest]

My operation system is Windows 98.
I already have this program but i dont know how to use it
java script:emoticon('<_<', 'smid_1')
<_<

[_r.u.s.s.]

to use bootdis, stick the diskette in to your case and restart pc.

if nothing happens, your boot priority is set to hdd at first, so you need to set 'floppy disk' as first boot drive

[Mighty Midget]

The boot disc is just a disc you use to boot your computer, sending you straight into the land of DOS instead of Windows. It may need a bit of tweaking for sound however, but you can use our "troubleshooting" to ask for help about that.

[Guest]

java script:emoticon(':w00t:', 'smid_17')
:w00t:

Hey! It worked!

But with no soundjava script:emoticon(':huh:', 'smid_6')
:huh:




How do i get sound?

[_r.u.s.s.]

run install exe, and choose your soundcard(try soundblaster 16, 220, 5, 1; and adlib for music)

[Guest]

java script:emoticon(':ok:', 'smid_9')
:ok: Thanks man

[_r.u.s.s.]

no problem \o/

[Ultima VIII patch application]

Will someone please tell me how to apply the 2.12 patch to Ultima VIII. I have the installed the game and can play it just fine with music and everything, but I do not know how to apply the patch. I have downlaoded the file in its zip form, and then I extract the files into the Ultima8 folder, and the patch does not apply. I have even re-compressed the files using the Restart command after extracting the patch into the Ultima8 folder, and the patch does not apply. What must I do?

[_r.u.s.s.]

you must read readme from the patch

[Ultima VIII patch application]

Much thanks. I have applied the patch with success. Take care.

[Ultima VIII speech pack]

Can someone please tell me how to obtain the speech pack for Ultima VIII? Does it come with the patch?

[_r.u.s.s.]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ultima VIII patch application @ Aug 1 2007, 06:11 PM) 302312</div>
Much thanks. I have applied the patch with success. Take care.
[/b]
no problem

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Ultima VIII speech pack @ Aug 1 2007, 06:13 PM) 302313</div>
Can someone please tell me how to obtain the speech pack for Ultima VIII? Does it come with the patch?
[/b]
you can get some patches here http://www.bootstrike.com/Ultima8/downloads.html but i dont think there will be a speech pack. for that you need to get better version, wherever you have downloaded it from=)

[Ultima VIII speech pack]

Hello. If I obtain the speech pack later, would I have to delete my currently saved files in order to install it, as with the patch, or can I impliment it into my saved games?

[_r.u.s.s.]

first of all, that wouldnt be patch but stolen file from original game (it is still protected). and second of all, i dont think you would need to delete your save games

[Nomed]

i cannot found the download link O_O

[Dave]

Sorry, there isn't a download link, the game is protected by ESA.

http://www.abandonia.com/themes/abandonia/nogo.gif
(http://www.abandonia.com/themes/abandonia/nogo.gif)

[Nomed]

I can't download?

[Scatty]

I can't download?
Obviously not.

[ruud316]

This is one of my fav games of all time, and the best ultima game, is dark and spooky. I had the original unpatched version which is impossible from the sourcers onwards as you have to have the regnants on the right bloody pixel to get a spell to work. I then downloaded the patch and completed the game, with a little help from a guide, I was so close doing it on my own. Gutted!

Oh yeh and there was no point to the pilgramage bit, as they never bothered programming it.

My rating 10/10

[red_avatar]

This is one of my fav games of all time, and the best ultima game, is dark and spooky. I had the original unpatched version which is impossible from the sourcers onwards as you have to have the regnants on the right bloody pixel to get a spell to work. I then downloaded the patch and completed the game, with a little help from a guide, I was so close doing it on my own. Gutted!

Oh yeh and there was no point to the pilgramage bit, as they never bothered programming it.

My rating 10/10

It's a shame that parts of this game do feel incomplete. Especially when you then here that there were plans for an expansion which got canned. You could see Electronic Earts rearing its ugly head even back then!

[Reinz]

yeah, where's the download button gone? =(

[Reinz]

ok after a bit of stuffing about, just use this direct link to the download page for ultima 8.

[LINK REMOVED]

[The Fifth Horseman]

:rulez:
It's nice you're one of those ingenious types, but I can't allow this link to remain.

[Lanatir]

This is the worst of all Ultimas, even U9 was better, and that means a lot. This is in no way connected to Ultima, its more a jump and run. Its badly scripted, the quests are a disaster, and jesus, the memory manager thing was a total screwup. I wish this game had never happened!:flame:

[Scatty]

Ultima VIII was heavily criticised by fans of the Ultima series since it came out, but, maybe because I played it before I got to know the rest of the Ultima games, I actually found this game to be very charming und special.
Sure it's different to the other Ultima parts, sure it has a lot arcade elements in it unlike the other ones, including the real-time combat, but training makes the master. And sure it has a lot of unfinisched ties in the story and a lot of, sometimes nasty, bugs which weren't still fixed with the patch. For that it offers a strange and unique world which quickly drew me into it's charm and mysterious mood which is perfectly supported by the music.

So, not being a die-hard fan of Ultima games though I love many of them, I don't think this is the worst game in the series but actually one of the best along with the two side-parts Ultima Underworld and Ultima Underworld II. And I played Ultima 9 through, too.
It's just a shame the promised addon The Lost Vale never came out for it.

[Zippledee]

Anyone know if it's possible to get sound effects to work in dosbox? I'm uisng vdmsound, but I only get the music.

[zirkoni]

Anyone know if it's possible to get sound effects to work in dosbox? I'm uisng vdmsound, but I only get the music.
Yep, just run the installer and change the sound configuration to match your
DOSBox configuration. Have you tried that with vdmsound?

[Zippledee]

Yep, just run the installer and change the sound configuration to match your
DOSBox configuration. Have you tried that with vdmsound?

No I haven't, I didn't know vdmsound was configurable..I thought I remembered just putting some files in the game directory.

I'll read up on it I guess!

[Zippledee]

Ok I messed around a bit and got it working, I didn't realize you needed to set the .exe to "run as vdms"...it seems to work great now, thanks alot.

[Ulrik]

I will probably be flamed for this question, but I can't see which link to click in order to download the game... :wall:
Anyone care to help:(

[dosraider]

Flamed ...? Naaaaaa, we will just point you to the F*AGS FAQS (http://www.abandonia.com/en/faq).

Just read and you'll know what ESA means..

[Maxor127]

I tried playing this about 10 years ago. It seemed decent enough, but of course I chose to store all of my stuff in some sort of container that apparently resets and deletes everything in it, and that just happened to be the container I used, and so I lost everything I had in it. Made me so mad, I quit playing.

[knobfer]

The game is currently unavailable to download Ulrik.

[jasonmloh]

There are two other file extensions to consider when using VDMS Sound. You already know how to configure using EXE the other two would be COM and BAT. Every dos game consists of these 3 executable extensions. Of course I personally have not tried it but I bet its worth a try ( the game runs with sound and you got yourself a helluva bargain )

Bottoms Up. :D
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[jasonmloh]

If you don't see the Download Button that means the game is sold by a merchant entity, which means that if you want the game you have to buy it. ( There are other alternatives which I will not mention here. Look around and you might just be able to get for free ).

Enjoy thy games. :D
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[MADRAS]

ok I installed the game with DOSBox without any problem and the game runs perfectly and with sound ehehe

My only problem is that I dont know how to save the game (really). After pressing ESC and the menu shows up, when I try to write in the diary nothing happens.....

Can anyone give me some advice here

[Ralackk]

ok I installed the game with DOSBox without any problem and the game runs perfectly and with sound ehehe

My only problem is that I dont know how to save the game (really). After pressing ESC and the menu shows up, when I try to write in the diary nothing happens.....

Can anyone give me some advice here

Are you perhaps attempting to write over the beginning entry? If so its not possible, you need to start from the 2nd entry and after clicking the blank space it should allow you to write whatever you wish there and then just hit enter to save it.

[lonewolf1045]

I brought Pagan on the 3.5 and CD only installed to see if it worked and then put it away. I did like what I saw though and was planning on playing it one day which never came. I still have them and the whole Ultima collection. I would like to see a return to Ultima but guess that would never happen and yes, out of the whole series Ultima 7 and its expansions was the best.:thumbs:

[golan]

Unprotected - YEY! Time to celebrate :)

So, is this the full game or a CD-rip?

[Scatty]

There is no such thing as a Cd-Rip of Ultima VIII, the game is installing itself fully from the files on CD and plays from hard drive. This is what you have for download here, the installed and ready full game.

[MV75]

Yes, except that the "cd version" came with the speech pack integrated, the floppy version had it seperate.

[golan]

Thanks for the info! :)

[slavestate]

Yes, except that the "cd version" came with the speech pack integrated, the floppy version had it seperate.

Looks like its there. I just downloaded and compared it to mine installed from the original Ultima Collection CD and all the sound files look the same.
The directory from abandonia is 1-2MB bigger then mine though... Maybe mine doesnt have em, to be honest after all these years Ive never been interested in even starting Pagan so never actually played it hehe..

[santadog]

Just finished the game. At the moment my desk if filled with notes containing scribbled texts on reagents, spells and other obscurities. A game without a quest log or map of any kind was quite the challenge. Though early memories of my first playthrough during the nineties helped a lot.

Is a real shame that they never released the expansion. There are some screenshots out there and they look really interesting.

Oh, first post in this forum by the way. I just had to join up as thanks to Abandonia for making this game available.

[Scatty]

They actually did make a finished version of the expansion The Lost Vale though never released it for sale. But there is one single full version of it which was sold on eBay in around 2005 for a huge mass of money to a collector who's of course holding it tight instead of releasing it to everyone for being available.
Look here for details: Link (http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=18970)

[yariel]

...
Question :
is the Reagants that can be found around certain area will be regenerated again after some time passed or not ...
:mhh:

[Scatty]

Yes and no. Every single placed item in the game doesn't respawn so once it is used up or thrown into the water, it disappears forever. But you can get more reagents if you slay monsters who do respawn in some areas, some types of monsters tend sometimes to have some reagents on their corpses such as trolls, ghosts and probably skeletons though not that sure for the last. In any case you're better advised not to waste any reagent you find along the way, they're not unlimited.

[Borodin]

They actually did make a finished version of the expansion The Lost Vale though never released it for sale. But there is one single full version of it which was sold on eBay in around 2005 for a huge mass of money to a collector who's of course holding it tight instead of releasing it to everyone for being available.
Look here for details: Link (http://www.crius.net/zone/showthread.php?t=18970)

I don't know, Scatty. My impression from that forum link is not that that a full, finished copy of an expansion was made, or sold, but that the box and its art are accurate. The fact that nobody has commented upon the code, and that neither Garriott nor EA are t screaming bloody murder over a game they supposedly own but was never sold and has now been auctioned off, should tell us all something.

[Scatty]

Well I don't think that a simple game box and maybe manual alone would be sold for so much money. It is a single, finished copy of the expansion for Ultima VIII which never made it out into producing more and distributing for sale, thus remaining the only piece of full Lost Vale available worldwide.

[Borodin]

Well I don't think that a simple game box and maybe manual alone would be sold for so much money.

Not too sure about that. I've seen some games going for $500 US and up. It's just possible that as time moves on, what we view as contemporary or slightly old will become viewed as antique. ;) And there are people who were practically teethed on the Ultima games. To have even the box art for one nobody else has...? Wouldn't surprise me. And I would be very surprised if a copy of a product never issued with public license by Garriott or EA was sold to somebody else without a bunch of lawyers stepping in.

I remember hearing on the BBC a few years back that a plastic saxophone owned by Charlie Parker, the legendary jazz musician, sold for $10 million US. Parker never saw $100,000 in his entire lifetime.

Of course, if it is real, the thing is very easy to prove. Just invite over a few reputable reviewers familiar with the Ultima series. Have them check out the box, and on film, capture them looking at, and playing, the title. I'll believe this one-copy-game exists when I see prove of it.

[yoga]

Dear Veterans and Ultima 8 players,

Would be so kind to inform me is this game very nice because I am planning now to start the game?

Pls excuse this idiot-like question..

Any info 'bout the game is welcomed.

Of course I will dully read all conc. help texts.

Thank You and excuse me I am troubling you..

yoga
:))

[Scatty]

Well you might want to read through these two reviews - Link1 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/review/R52927.html) and Link2 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/review/R51212.html) and look here on Mobygames (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/ultima-viii-pagan) the screenshots of the game (to the right, under the advertisement) to get a picture. Some might like it, others not. I for my part think this game is great.

[yoga]

Well you might want to read through these two reviews - Link1 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/review/R52927.html) and Link2 (http://www.gamefaqs.com/computer/doswin/review/R51212.html) and look here on Mobygames (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/ultima-viii-pagan) the screenshots of the game (to the right, under the advertisement) to get a picture. Some might like it, others not. I for my part think this game is great.

Dear Scatty,

my thanks for such prompt and positive instruction.
Yes, I did DL the game, installed the game using DosBox under XP Pro and now begin careful reading of all help and your links.
( Well, I will try the game under Windows 7 Ultimate ).
I visit Youtube and see some small videos to understand the battle Technics of the Avatar.
But the very first thing I want to know is HOW to Save my progress.

Thank You once again very politely..

( Sob, sob - Everton - MU 3:1 :(( )

yoga
Berbatov countryman and fan
:thumbs:

[yoga]

Hi, all,
I have pleasure to inform You that 2 minutes before I started U8 under Windows 7 Ultimate.
More details:
- I installed DosBox under XP Pro in the same PC and without any problem started the game..Well. (Nota bene: I this PC I am using Windows ME, XP Pro and Win 7).
- I entered Win 7, open from here DosBox and started U8. Great!
It starts.
1-The games is working very nice.
2-Sounds and music - Yes.
3-The only problem faced when I with Alt+Enter try to use Full screen. As a result the color schema changed and all colors became bad. But another Alt+Enter solves the situation - game played in a window very well. This is no problem at all.
Details: Win 7, 2GB RAM, 2GHz, Video card -64 MB, Nvidia Geforce , 22"Monitor, 1600 x 1200 resolution.

yoga
beta tester
and future translator of AB in Bulgarian lang

:thumbs:

[zirkoni]

3-The only problem faced when I with Alt+Enter try to use Full screen. As a result the color schema changed and all colors became bad. But another Alt+Enter solves the situation - game played in a window very well. This is no problem at all.
I get the same problem sometimes but only if I switch to full screen after starting a game.
Also, changing the output in DOSBox conf to ddraw or overlay solves the problem.

[Scatty]

That might be because the game's resolution is not the default 320x200 but some unusual one, not sure what it is exactly. If you start the game in fullscreen it should be displayed normally though.

[yoga]

Good morning from sunny BG,

After my morning tea I will start the game Ultima 8..
I did some exercises and I am ready.
But these crocodile-like creatures are very strong!
Never mind.
Yoga crashed the powerful Lord Xeen (thanks clever Paco and other AB members) and will crash these current demons and wizards.
The Russians will said:
"Ни пуха, ни пера"
(Sorry, this can't be translated to Eng. It is some like Good luck. Ha ha ha)

So, yoga, grab your sword and Forward.

:thumbs:

[Paco]

@Yoga Firstly you should train your Char to 25 (max) with slashing your Weapon in nothing and read so many Books as you can.


btw Most Monster cant be beaten or only with much Time and Work which is often not worth it. These Lizard are not very strong. ^^

[yoga]

Hi, Paco, ja, ja,

I agree with You.
But you finished the game before 3-4 years und yoga started before 3 hours..
For example now, where, the hell is this Castle in Central Tenebrae??
Will be very nice if You prepare a detailed map.
This way a idiot like yoga will find very easy the wanted location..

More: In my walkthrough stated:

Visit Mythran at the Plataeu:
Get money before you go.
Go to the castle in central Tenebrae.

Where? How many money?
Everyone know that money not lay on the street, even in Swiss.

yoga
a new player of U8

:thumbs:

[Paco]

Hi, Paco, ja, ja,

I agree with You.
But you finished the game before 3-4 years und yoga started before 3 hours..
For example now, where, the hell is this Castle in Central Tenebrae??
Will be very nice if You prepare a detailed map.
This way a idiot like yoga will find very easy the wanted location..


The Castle is just North of the Gate where you entered the City. You should at last activate the Teleport-Portal in the Castle.

More: In my walkthrough stated:

Visit Mythran at the Plataeu:
Get money before you go.
Go to the castle in central Tenebrae.

Where? How many money?
Everyone know that money not lay on the street, even in Swiss.

Forget the Plateau for the Time Being. The way to it is hard. Obsidian is the Current in Pagan. You should take your time and explore the City and loot it (but beware that no one can see if you steal something. Yes, this is not like other RPGs where you can freely loot anything)

For example go to Jewelry in East and sleep in her Bed for some Hours and check if she is out, then loot all Jewel on Table and sleep again and sell it back to her for some Money.

And some House in City have some nice Stuff, but some are protected by Traps. :D

oh while you are at it, Can you make some Screenshots of the Game with DOSBox? Some Screenshots on AB is of bad Quality, so it need to be replaced.

Edit:

and get the Key-Ring to put all Key you found on it. Its very helpful

[yoga]

@ Danke, Paco for yr instructions about U 8.

..Paco, no need to ask me for Screenshots of all..
You help me so much in Xeen so just say and finito.
I will send you Screenshots from Win XP and Win 7.

Just, just to enter this Castle, bitte.

yoga aka Avatar

[Paco]

Just, just to enter this Castle, bitte.

yoga aka Avatar

Didnt i say so in my last Post:

The Castle is just North of the Gate where you entered the City. You should at last activate the Teleport-Portal in the Castle.

The Gate is also North of the Bridge where the Beheaded-Scene happened.

North is in this Game Top-Right and South Bottom-Left. East Bottom-Right and West Top-Left.

[Capo]

A new Yoga's journey, nice! :woot:

[dosraider]

Yoga: http://www.replacementdocs.com/download.php?view.6989
If needed: Foxit (http://download.cnet.com/Foxit-Reader/3000-10743_4-10313206.html?part=dl-116442&subj=dl&tag=button/) small, fast, freeware PDF viewer.

[yoga]

Wow, my good friend Capo is here!

Great!!

Nice to meet YOU.

All nice gang is here (well respected Paco, nice goodhearted Scatty and YOU).

Viva Italy!! Forever..

As you see, me, humble yoga again is on the battled path, with painted of battle colors face and ready to crash down the bad Guardian as I crashed the bad Lord Xeen years ago..
Well, all help will be welcomed.

Note: As I walked up-down the Tanebrae, some creature - abs. copy of me attacked me. I was very surprised for a moment, but very soon sent this one in a better world.
Second note: Following the instruction of Paco to obtain money I visited a rich widow of the executed one and steeped in her house. She disappeared and I (shame for yoga) as real bandito grab her valuable stuff from the table. But she does not return back to sell these things. Why?

yoga from small, sunny and lovely Bulgaria

FOR both BG translators only:
Sry, this text in my native lang
Здравейте, може ли да Ви помогна?
(Hi, may I help You?)

Ciao, amigo Capo.
:thumbs:

[Paco]

Note: As I walked up-down the Tanebrae, some creature - abs. copy of me attacked me. I was very surprised for a moment, but very soon sent this one in a better world.

AH, a Changeling. Its very weak and give often Money and Molotok.

Second note: Following the instruction of Paco to obtain money I visited a rich widow of the executed one and steeped in her house. She disappeared and I (shame for yoga) as real bandito grab her valuable stuff from the table. But she does not return back to sell these things. Why?

She come back to certain Hour. So you can wait or better sleep until She come back.

[yoga]

Gnadige Dosrider,

Guten Tag und
DANKE, DANKE, DANKE!!!

Your help is great!
This 51 pages book will save much of my time..
YOU very kind..
How can I recompense?

Alles gut!

Danke noch ein mal..

Grateful yoga

:thumbs:

[yoga]

She come back to certain Hour. So you can wait or better sleep until She come back.

@Paco

Roger, amigo.

But this town is not small at all..

Yes, it is not like Xeen territory, but anyway I need iron boots..
(Seriously, can I find some bow in the game or not?)

Now I will practice my battle technics to reach higher points, but I am lazy to read all books. Anyway I am soldier not student..BTW I like fair battle not magics exercises.
Have I give some money (how) to beggars or not?

Merci


:))

[Paco]

Yes, it is not like Xeen territory, but anyway I need iron boots..(Seriously, can I find some bow in the game or not?)

There is none in Game. :(

Now I will practice my battle technics to reach higher points, but I am lazy to read all books. Anyway I am soldier not student..BTW I like fair battle not magics exercises.

You need just one Book. So read through it rapid and again and again...

INT is needed for Mana Point. You can later cast Magic and so...
Magic is needed to complete the Game, believe me...

Have I give some money (how) to beggars or not?


no, They arent important for the Story.

[Scatty]

Be sure to read the book until the end and close it with one click which counts as it being read, not with double-click which counts as aborting reading it and doesn't bring any experience. Best for such training of intelligence is a very short book with only one page, which you can open again and again, and finish also immediately with a single click. But you should be able to find enough books in the library of Tenebrae in the east part of the town (going through the gates at the right side from the palace).

As for practicing strength and dexterity, if it gets tedious after a while to whack with the weapon at the air, you can also climb up the walls and jump down again, or simply jump around which also trains both.

If you want to see what the consequences are for stealing stuff in the town and being caught, save the game and do so where you can be seen. It's pretty funny :D

[yoga]

@Paco
@Scatty

Roger, amigos..

yoga


:thumbs:

[Capo]

Be sure to read the book until the end and close it with one click which counts as it being read, not with double-click which counts as aborting reading it and doesn't bring any experience. Best for such training of intelligence is a very short book with only one page, which you can open again and again, and finish also immediately with a single click. But you should be able to find enough books in the library of Tenebrae in the east part of the town (going through the gates at the right side from the palace).


Is that really necessary ? Dont looks very funny.

[Scatty]

If you want to have 25 intelligence already at the beginning of the game, yes. You have a better idea how to train it fast?

[yoga]

I read the Clue book very slowly.

---Excuse me, can I know my coordinate in the space? (x and y)
For example: 25, 43

---I need good Axe.

I tried to kill one lizard, but another two lizards imm. helped the first (Warum), so I return and run away.
Tell me about attacked lizard:
Is its power regenerates to max, when I did using 5 sleeping hours?
When I returned to fight, has it the max strength?

My plan: To run on the lizard, try some swings, looking on my power indicator right down and when it shows decreasing of my power, run away in save place, sleep, and again and again till lizard is killed.

More: When I kill all bad creatures, they appeared again or not? Because in some RPG games when the hero visit some places, the game again and again regenerates creatures.

Some small little stupid girl asked me silly questions all the time she meet me?
Was ist das?

Ty
:thumbs:

[Capo]

If you want to have 25 intelligence already at the beginning of the game, yes. You have a better idea how to train it fast?

If is not neccesary i will totally avoid the " read 100 books and attack the air" part.

[Scatty]

You wouldn't get far in Ultima VIII then if you don't train your three statistics to 25. Dexterity increases the speed of the melee attacks and your armor class, strength increases the damage, while both of them increase the life points. And I repeat, you'll need all of this at maximum to not be frustrated with the game.
As for intelligence, as soon as you come in touch with magic (which will be pretty soon) you'll want to have intelligence (which dictates the mana points available) at maximum so earlier or later you'll have to train it up anyway. Better earlier to have all that behind you already and enjoy the game more.

I read the Clue book very slowly.

---Excuse me, can I know my coordinate in the space? (x and y)
For example: 25, 43

---I need good Axe.

I tried to kill one lizard, but another two lizards imm. helped the first (Warum), so I return and run away.
Tell me about attacked lizard:
Is its power regenerates to max, when I did using 5 sleeping hours?
When I returned to fight, has it the max strength?

My plan: To run on the lizard, try some swings, looking on my power indicator right down and when it shows decreasing of my power, run away in save place, sleep, and again and again till lizard is killed.

More: When I kill all bad creatures, they appeared again or not? Because in some RPG games when the hero visit some places, the game again and again regenerates creatures.

Some small little stupid girl asked me silly questions all the time she meet me?
Was ist das?

Ty
:thumbs:
In certain places the monsters are always again there once you leave the area and re-enter it. As for fighting the bigger creeps, you'll want to wait until you get hold of you first magic weapons, Yoga, they do more damage than normal weapons. The best normal weapon to begin with is a two-handed sword anyway, earliest location to get one - the smith in West-Tenebrae, just follow the road to the west and you'll come to his house. That'll make it a bit easier in the beginning.
But you'll probably want to consider leaving stronger enemies alone and make a big circle around them until later. Enemies to avoid at the beginning include - trolls (those giants with huge clubs), demons (red, horned, big nasty mouth and clawed hands), ghosts (black flowing robes with skull as head, can only be hurt with magic weapons, spawn flaming skulls which track you down and explode - ouch), kiths (red-brown six-legged spider-similar looking critters, they can bite painfully) and beholders (single big eye on top of a red tail which ends in a toothed mouth, can hurt painfully but have not many lifepoints). Trolls and demons especially make shashlik out of you quite fast. Ghouls are quite weak though, so are changelings who like to transform into your own figure.

[yoga]

@Scatty , danke noch ein mal..
Nice instructions, very nice..
(AK-47 is very popular Russian made gun -it shots in manual mode also- by M. Kalashnikov in 1947-48)

@Capo (del tutty capos - ha ha) why not join to me and together play the Ultima 8? Kind Scatty and Paco and others will help us.
Si, signore mio..

Great idea.

Ciao, boys.

(BTW today I will be in mountain BG region to translate one foreigner before BG authorities)
:thumbs:

[Scatty]

Geez, I just noticed, you certainly re-saved and re-compressed the screenshots few times after they've been uploaded for the first time back then. Only the last one is sharp, a later addition. No wonder you would like some new ones.
Anyway, I'm off to download Ultima VIII to get hooked into it myself now. Thanks for the inspiration Yoga :D

Edit: this FAQ / Walkthrough is also in my opinion a better one than the one on this site, I used it years back when I was playing Ultima VIII often and it covers more detailled things about the game. Link (http://www.the-spoiler.com/RPG/Origin/ultima.8.3.html)

Edit2: there is also the last, updated version of the FAQ here - Link (http://web.archive.org/web/20010418035231/www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/7846/ultima8.html).
The change seems to consist mostly only of the new info about the U9 preview chest, whether such thing ever existed or not.

[yoga]

Hi, amigos,

Hurry to tell y some very interesting:
"Investigating the town Tenebrae I enter careless in the cemetery and ...was killed very strange.."
Some creature attacked me with a yellow flaying ball-like thing (it was similar of Doom 2 creature which sent same balls from distance and boxing with y when near by..)
No help of running because the flying bomb followed me everywhere!!!

... and some little girls started to hit me ???
No, no I was gentleman and avoid these stupid..
I am real follower of Yoga philosophy and never wanted to kill children, even in game.

Nice game, very nice- ab. 5 hours I investigate and at last I was loosed..

Ha ha

But I have nice maps of Clue book. Again TY dear Dosrider!

yoga

PC: My rucksack is full and very uneasy to find needed stuff!
Like a lady's handbag.

:thumbs:

[Scatty]

Hi, amigos,

Hurry to tell y some very interesting:
"Investigating the town Tenebrae I enter careless in the cemetery and ...was killed very strange.."
Some creature attacked me with a yellow flaying ball-like thing (it was similar of Doom 2 creature which sent same balls from distance and boxing with y when near by..)
No help of running because the flying bomb followed me everywhere!!!
Told you further above to avoid the ghosts for now as they spawn flaming skulls that auto-seek you....

[Paco]

Geez, I just noticed, you certainly re-saved and re-compressed the screenshots few times after they've been uploaded for the first time back then. Only the last one is sharp, a later addition. No wonder you would like some new ones.

Yes, that is why i asked yoga to make new Screenshots so we can replace it, but you can help out too. ^^

[Scatty]

I'll be on that one during my progress

[yoga]

@Paco - I will provide AB with nice Screenshots, but I am in the beginning right now. I know my duty.. Ja, ja aber the game is very interesting, yoga ist heute Uberzetzer and Psttt - The boss is approaching..

@Scatty -- Hm hmm, probably there is a method to kill this creature in cemetary..
Go on in U8. Lets progress together, camarad.. :))
You will read the books, I will kill the bad ones. Agreed?
Gut.
I will send Y my save files, OK?:max:

Off
Gamers, I played the game --Prince of Persia 3D.. Not recommend you.
Just jump, jump like a idiot. I am not Mario to jump.

BTW, how to jump over closed doors? For example in Princess Palace?

yoga
:thumbs:

[Capo]

@Capo (del tutty capos - ha ha) why not join to me and together play the Ultima 8? Kind Scatty and Paco and others will help us.
Si, signore mio..


I dont have enough time brother, i still have to play Ultima 7, maybe i will play it this summer ;)

[yoga]

I dont have enough time brother, i still have to play Ultima 7, maybe i will play it this summer ;)

OK.
Till summer I will finish U8 and start U7 and Y will help me and I will help You.
Very nice.

Is U7 nice game?
U8 is nice game..

Ciao, friend

:thumbs:

[Scatty]

@Scatty -- Hm hmm, probably there is a method to kill this creature in cemetary..
Go on in U8. Lets progress together, camarad.. :))
You will read the books, I will kill the bad ones. Agreed?
Gut.
I will send Y my save files, OK?:max:
Well you can kill the ghosts only with a magic weapon (weapon surrounded with a blue line), for once, as I've written further above. Just whack at it continuosly clicking as fast as you can, as it will step back after being hit press on and whack further until it's dead. Quite simple once you figure it out. If you don't hack at it all the time it will spawn the flaming skulls quickly enough and it will get difficult.

About the save game, I'm not quite sure what you meant to propose I would be doing with it. To help you with the ghost? I would gladly do that if you like some help, but first - if you run far from some certain areas and return to them monster will often re-appear there so it's of no real use that I kill that ghost, and second - it might be better for you to learn to master the combat for yourself if you intend to progress in the game further on, because it won't get really easier and you better be prepared :)

[yoga]

Dear Scatty,

I was just joking for our mutual game.:)
Yes, yes I like to joke. I like humor..
But when had to be serious, I am like a rock.

Game: Yes, Ich habe ein gut Clue Buch, aber ist sehr gut zu beobacten the town, walking up-down, fighting, speaking with town people, without instruction.
Ja, ja my German is sehr schlecht. aber ich liebe German people und .. ha ha.
Y'now the feeling to introduce with the game is very nice.
Of course after first days I will follow strictly the Book. I have time (Capo will wait till summer) and I enjoyed now.
One question, if you do not mind:
- Well respected Paco inform me that is possible to jump over some locked doors, if they are air open.
Pls, how to do that. I tried, tried in vain.
Well, I make one mistake: Attack the bad creature, swing some hits and run to save place (some building), creature followed me, I close the door and want to sleep to regenerate my strength.
Nein. Ummoglich. I receive message: No time to sleep now.??
So I am forced to eat some cheese or like to up my strength. And then out and meet the bad. Is this tactic stupid ?
Danke sehr, Scatty, und einschuld.. Sie, bitte.

ein stupid yoga
:thumbs:

[yoga]

Hi, folks,
Report: The Recall pad in CT -Palace is activated.

My status:
STR - 19
INT - 15
DEX - 18
AR - 4
HITS - 38
MANA -30
WGT -74
Yes, still very weak,but every beginning is hard.

Now I am searching this Keyring in CT2.

yoga

:thumbs:

When i will leave status Freak? Have 127 postings..

[Luchsen]

The next usertitle is from 150 to 199 posts, but it's a Freak too. :laugh:

[Scatty]

Game: Yes, Ich habe ein gut Clue Buch, aber ist sehr gut zu beobacten the town, walking up-down, fighting, speaking with town people, without instruction.
Ja, ja my German is sehr schlecht. aber ich liebe German people und .. ha ha.
Y'now the feeling to introduce with the game is very nice.
Of course after first days I will follow strictly the Book. I have time (Capo will wait till summer) and I enjoyed now.
One question, if you do not mind:
- Well respected Paco inform me that is possible to jump over some locked doors, if they are air open.
Pls, how to do that. I tried, tried in vain.
Well, I make one mistake: Attack the bad creature, swing some hits and run to save place (some building), creature followed me, I close the door and want to sleep to regenerate my strength.
Nein. Ummoglich. I receive message: No time to sleep now.??
So I am forced to eat some cheese or like to up my strength. And then out and meet the bad. Is this tactic stupid ?
Danke sehr, Scatty, und einschuld.. Sie, bitte.

ein stupid yoga
:thumbs:
Well you like a good advise? Let the clue book be, try to discover the game on your own. Trust me, you'll have much more fun that way. Use the clue book the second time, to see if you missed something out the first time you were playing.

I wouldn't know that it would be possible to jump over locked doors. You can, however, climb walls beside a door if the door can't be opened and you're NOT inside a bulding since you can't jump through the ceiling above your head ;)
A good example is in the catacombs you'll discover later on.

Also you can't sleep with hostile creatures nearby, kind of makes sense since they'd (theoretically) get you while you're asleep, or simply keep you from sleeping by howling or whatever :p
You can run run away something like 2 screen-length of a distance and then it will be possible to sleep, unless the monster followed you. Just run away far enough.
Gather yellow potions (heal slight wounds) or red potions (heal completely) to be able to heal yourself in critical situations where you have no other choice. Purple potions make you invincible for a short time, use the time to kill whatever you need to before they'll become able to injure you again. Also grey potions make you invisible, useful to sneak past some though monsters and avoid being attacked. You find those potions everywhere and you can often loot some of stronger killed monsters for potions, like ghosts or skeleton warriors. Keep in mind that skeleton warriors stand up after short time and you can kill them again, and they'll have again something to loot.

Пуст всегда будет солнце
Actually you forgot the ь letter after Пуст ;)

[yoga]

Mama mia,

Scatty, You know Russian?? Bravo..
Хорошо. Хочешь говорим по Р. some time?
Yes, yes the letter ь is very small and i forgot.. Xa xa

The game:
Nice advise to play the game first time without Clue book.
I will follow it.

Report: The Keyring is found..

Q: Why some stupid small girls attacked me (6 -7)? I am just walking around with no bad intends. They, the stupid, pr. do not know I am armed and dangerous. What to do? To kill them all or avoid? Sposibo.
Q2: Some time my avatar starts to walk strange way: Like a sleep-walker?
Q3: You played The Elder scrolls- Arena?

Победа будет за нами!

:thumbs:

[Scatty]

Where did this girl attack you? In town or outside of town, through the north gate of Tenebrae? If it's something like 4 children attacking you outside of a town in a corner between the city wall and a mountain, you can safely kill them, it's kind of a silly joke on side of game's designers. Or you can just let them be and walk away. Don't attack any non-hostile people anywhere or you're gonna be killed by Beren when they summon him.
If Avatar walks like a sleepwalker and a Burps! appears from time to time over his head he drank one over the eight, if you know what I mean. Drinking alcohol is actually funny to watch, especially after 5-6 bottles (watch that one) but has otherwise no use to the Avatar whatsoever.
Yes I played The Elder Scrolls - Arena and I also played The Elder Scrolls - Daggerfall extensively, especially the second one. Why?

[yoga]

Yes, the same 4 girls outside the town walls. OK I will finish these ones.

Elder Scrolls?
In the future I will explain in more details my Q :))

By the way I am feeling bad, robbing the poor widow of the executed man on the beach. Shame for yoga. I have now 240 Obsidian coins..
Is it time to buy some battle equipment from some smith-like man?
In this connection I have more
Q: Walkin' up-down I enter one ruined house and wow ... fall down, nearby one Troll.. Terrible I run away killing some small turtles-like creatures and right, right I find a door. Open and find nice battle Axe. Then I back and left I open one door of the room with 4-5 woman and another troll. As a fox I entered the room and very fast take a key. Then back to first place. Well, I killed the knight, small creatures, enter the first room, close the door after troll but no exit.. Sadly, I load another moment of the game..
Q2: In the palace of CT at the second floor I found a square strange thing with diagonals,thinking this is a recall pad. I walked on it, but no reaction? Am I wrong? Some where i read the lift will up-down?

Have a good time with Elder scrolls.
:thumbs:

---

@Luchsen

Danke sehr, gnadige Luchsen.

yoga

LOL

[Paco]

By the way I am feeling bad, robbing the poor widow of the executed man on the beach. Shame for yoga. I have now 240 Obsidian coins..Is it time to buy some battle equipment from some smith-like man?

no, that is no needed, btw you can also use the Sleep-Rob-Trick on Smith too. On this way you get alot good Stuff for the Begin and you can sell back unnecessary Stuff to him too to get more Money.

Q2: In the palace of CT at the second floor I found a square strange thing with diagonals,thinking this is a recall pad. I walked on it, but no reaction? Am I wrong? Some where i read the lift will up-down?

You will later receive something on the Plateau to teleport around, but you have to active it beforehand or else you have to walk back to Tenebrae barefoot. ^^

[yoga]

What is yoga without nice Paco and Scatty?
Absolute zero.
No Xeen saga, no Elder Scrolls, no Ultima..

..Yes, I will follow yr instruction...and Scatty's.

Q: Name some sum to keep, pls..now i have 240.
And after that i will ask you to send me to good Swiss bank to open account..:lust:

good hearth yoga

Tremble and cry Guardian..
The powerful YOGA approaching.
As Lord Xeen was crashed, same will be your doom..
:thumbs:

[Scatty]

no, that is no needed, btw you can also use the Sleep-Rob-Trick on Smith too. On this way you get alot good Stuff for the Begin and you can sell back unnecessary Stuff to him too to get more Money.
I doubt you could sell anything to the smith. But he'll gladly sell something to you :)

Q: Walkin' up-down I enter one ruined house and wow ... fall down, nearby one Troll.. Terrible I run away killing some small turtles-like creatures and right, right I find a door. Open and find nice battle Axe. Then I back and left I open one door of the room with 4-5 woman and another troll. As a fox I entered the room and very fast take a key. Then back to first place. Well, I killed the knight, small creatures, enter the first room, close the door after troll but no exit.. Sadly, I load another moment of the game..
You actually found the Treasure Cove, a dungeon at the end of which you would have found a magic weapon, the Slayer (10% chance to kill the enemy on hit). I suppose with the knight you mean the skeleton warrior. They get up again few moments after you killed them, only two ways to kill them permanently. If I was you I would go fall down there again and look around. The room with the key was correct already, but the exit is not where you entered the dungeon. Look out for and read the books on pedestals :)

As about the obsidian coins, you'll need around 2x 666 of them (666 is the max you can have stacked in one pile) for buying few spell books later at the plateau.

Edit: also when you arrive at that point in the game, Sorcery (fire magic of the Enclave) can be pain in the arse unless you're good with small details and keep track of everything that's necessary, and there's much to keep in mind. This picture of names of the pentagram's tips is helpful when preparing the spells.
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/u5lazarus/images/thumb/3/3d/U8SorceryPentagram.png/550px-U8SorceryPentagram.png

[yoga]

Bad day today for yoga..

Again as a bandito rob an innocent lady - some like Scarith or like - with scepter - Scimitar, money and candle..

Am i fair, noble soldier or real bandit?

First - the poor widow - so cheeky is to sleep in home of a kind person and as gratitude to take the diamonds.. more over to sale back to the mistress
Second - as a fox fast grab the key of a troll
Third - today rob the scimitar

Mama mia...
At last i did 2 stupid attempts to show 5 screenshots of Ultima 8 and fail as a real idiot.
Pls let admin delete this 2 my posts.
But i never did this operation in my life before..
They are below Scatty shots..

Ashamed, I fall down on the floor, crying loudly..

The curtain falls down.

[Scatty]

Hey, cheer up, everyone has a first time. What you can do is experiment with those screenshot links and press Preview Post under your post instead of Submit Reply, that way you'll see the results of your posting above it without actually have posted it. Useful for seeing how the final result of your post would look like. Try it that way ;)

Besides, you can edit your two posts there and insert the screenshots into them, trying as described above, so they become useful - no need to delete anything.

[Capo]

Bad day today for yoga..

Again as a bandito rob an innocent lady - some like Scarith or like - with scepter - Scimitar, money and candle..

Am i fair, noble soldier or real bandit?


Arent you the incarnation of the virtues ? :sneaky:

[Paco]

Arent you the incarnation of the virtues ? :sneaky:

Funny, you say that. This dont work in U8. You have to free the evil Titans to escape Pagan. They will then terrorize Pagan. You see U8 have almost nothing to do with the Virtues...

[yoga]

OK,
I will be as hard as rock and without mercy will kill all evil minions.
YOU may see how yoga kill 7 small stupid girls, who attacked me.
Ty, dear Paco for your non stop support and assistance more than 5 years.
God bless YOU!

[Paco]

OK,
I will be as hard as rock and without mercy will kill all evil minions.
YOU may see how yoga kill 7 small stupid girls, who attacked me.
Ty, dear Paco for your non stop support and assistance more than 5 years.
God bless YOU!

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6695/u8035.png

I think the Kids dont exist in German Version. :wondering:


http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/4246/u8037.png


To your other Question: You have to near the Recall Pad to activate it, then it will be hovering and coloring like this as shown.

[Scatty]

http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6695/u8035.png

I think the Kids dont exist in German Version. :wondering:
Yes they do, I used to install Ultima VIII earlier in German from the original CD and these kids are also there, strangely there're 7 and in English version I always encountered only 4. Some kind of joke on German censorship? :mhh:

As about the pad, it's already activated once you're near it. However it becomes only useful later, when you visit Mythran on the Plateau and he gives you the red teleportation device. Double-clicking on it will bring up a menu with already activated so far teleport pads you can teleport to.

[yoga]

Hurray!! Step by step

[Capo]

Funny, you say that. This dont work in U8. You have to free the evil Titans to escape Pagan. They will then terrorize Pagan. You see U8 have almost nothing to do with the Virtues...

Arent you in the game the same Avatar of the previous games ? Interesting :o

[Scatty]

Yeah it was mentioned also in this (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.computer.ultima.dragons/msg/8b52db076b04ce26) online conference between Origin and Richard Garriott and fans of Ultima VIII in 1994. Made him kinda pause thoughtfully.

[yoga]

Hi and SOS,

Yoga started voyage to Mythran:
-Jumped all stones across the water. In the right found 4 magic scrolls. Jumped to the land. OK. Then clump up, kill the ghoul and take a dagger and strange red-yellow spinning disk.
Well, i reached small zone with damaged winch and lever. Left two metal wired gates. In my Clue book i read two remarks for one thing but they are not clear. Allow me to quote:

Page 62
"(PL,4) Gate First, throw all levers on the far side of the rope bridge without bones in front of them. (PL,2)
Then the last lever must be thrown. " (PL,3)

Page 73
"Go to Mythran's house through cave."
.. Cross the rope bridge (PL,2)
Throw all levers without bones or sculls in front of them.
Return across the bridge and use the lever (PL,3) in small ruined building (?!) to open the two large iron gates (PL,4)...

Where I am wrong? I did both procedure, but these gates are still closed.
Throw I mean pressing the lever from me to contrary direction.
More over some times (I did many tests) the main lever ( it is before the two groups levers , left and right -each of 3 levers) thrown already?
PL=Plateau

The game is so nice, like a fairy tale..

yoga

[Scatty]

When you have used the row of levers across the bridge in the right order there'll be earthquake so you'll know when they're right. When they are, use the single lever and the gates will open. Just experiment with the row of levers.

[yoga]

Single lever You mean this one, before the 6 more?
Not broken one which is on the other side, near broken winch?

[Scatty]

With the single lever I mean the one by the chest in a ruin, before the rope bridge.

[yoga]

I experiment with the 7 levers in the ruined house about a 24 hours without result. To clear the problem, once again:

- In the ruined house we have 1 lever just after entrance. OK?
I will name this lever Front lever.
Then we have one row of 3 levers in the right and one row of 3 levers in the left. OK?
So, 1+3+3 = 7 levers.
I did the next combinations:
1. All 7 levers away from me.
2. All 7 levers towards me.
3. Right row of 3 levers away from me. Left row of 3 levers towards me. Front lever away from me.
4. Right row of 3 levers away from me. Left row of 3 levers towards me. Front lever towards me.
5. Right row of 3 levers towards me. Left row of 3 levers away from me. Front lever away from me.
6. Right row of 3 levers towards me. Left row of 3 levers away from me. Front lever towards me.
..
Another combinations are possible, but we will enter the Theory of Probability. According to this Theory, we have to speak about 7!
(!= factorial) or 6x5x4x3x2x1=720 combinations.
But I do not believe the authors will use so difficult solution.
Well, I will do once again above tests. If again fail I will rest 1 day and then...
:thumbs:

[Scatty]

According to this (http://web.archive.org/web/20010418035231/www.geocities.com/TimesSquare/7846/ultima8.html) FAQ / Walkthrough I linked to few pages before already, you need to press the levers that way:
2. How do I get by those large gates (near the levers and rope bridge)?

Cross the rope bridge. There are seven levers:

L1 L2 L3 R1 R2 R3
--------C--------

Pull L2, R1, R2 (so all left levers are down and all right levers are up),
and then C will automatically pull. You'll see and feel a large shaking.
Then go back across the rope bridge. The broken lever has been fixed -
pull it to open the bars. You can then head out to the plateau.

Try it and see if that works.

[yoga]

Hurray, It is done..Cont.
LOL

[Capo]

Yeah it was mentioned also in this (http://groups.google.com/group/rec.games.computer.ultima.dragons/msg/8b52db076b04ce26) online conference between Origin and Richard Garriott and fans of Ultima VIII in 1994. Made him kinda pause thoughtfully.


"Those doors are there to provide an entrance into the Lost
Vale. You can't open them until the add-in module that will be
available late this summer or early fall. Good job spotting
those doors!"

:(

[Scatty]

I know, it's a real pity. Got to read everything possible on the net and some fan sites about it, but it's an unfortunate truth - the expansion pack is dead, no backup of an actually fully finished copy back then anywhere. Gotta just say - f*** the EA. Also for rushing out the following Ultima IX to be that bad instead of all the great ideas Richard Garriot had for it.

[yoga]

Mates,
slowly I progressed. I play non stop. Only piece of bread and on keyboard..

But how to meet Aramina in Bloodwatch?
When is Bloodwatch in our routine, human life?

She will give me an important key..

merci

[Paco]

But how to meet Aramina in Bloodwatch?
When is Bloodwatch in our routine, human life?

Get a Clock in City, then click on it to learn which Time it is. If it isnt Bloodwatch, then go sleep until its Bloodwatch.

[yoga]

Thank YOU, Paco.

As usually YOU are very kind.

yoga

(I used Chatbox to ask because I am crazy after this nice game - It is like a fairy tale).
I do play day and night.
Only translation will slow my gaming speed.

LOL

[yoga]

Small problem:

I have the key required (from Amarina) but how it is insert in key ring?
I open my back sack , take key and put on the key ring.
Or take the key and put on the key ring.
In both case nothing happens??

;(

[Paco]

Small problem:

I have the key required (from Amarina) but how it is insert in key ring?
I open my back sack , take key and put on the key ring.
Or take the key and put on the key ring.
In both case nothing happens??

;(

Click twice on Key then click on Keyring and done.

[yoga]

Yes. Done.
Well respected and dear Paco, how I will
compensate Your non stop support during last 3 years?

OK, I will do brilliant translation of AB to BG and bring in the forum at least 20 Bulgarians-gamers?
Agreed?

Of course Thank YOU again.

happy yoga

:)

[yoga]

Caramba.. What happen?

I have a key from Amarina.
I am before Mordea's bedroom.
I see Her Majesty is sleeping.
The watch shows Bloodwatch. And..
both doors declared ;;;; Locked door;;

Why? Why? Why?

yoga is crazy

[Paco]

I have a key from Amarina.
I am before Mordea's bedroom.
I see Her Majesty is sleeping.
The watch shows Bloodwatch. And..
both doors declared ;;;; Locked door;;

The Key is somewhere in Throneroom and you should only go to Bedroom if Mordea is eating.

[yoga]

Paco,

all done. I am Apprentice now.

I am on the road again to select some ingredients, Necromancer wants.

I enjoy the game!!! So nice..

THANK YOU, ABANDONIA.

yoga

[yoga]

My walk through states:

@1
To get the hood, follow the dirt path back through the archway and then
head east, perpindicular to the road. You'll have to go south 5 or ten steps
too. You'll find a pit with changelings in it. At the center is an island of
sorts with executioner's hood on it.

Can not find it! Is this Hood in cemetery or outside?

@2
To get the sticks, Teleport to Central Tenebrae and head west to west Tenebrae. You'll find the sticks under a tree in the northwest area.
(15150,3050,56,39) There will be a ghost and a burnt out building nearby.
Get the sticks.
Can not get it! I approached burned out house, enter it and uncovered a Maze. Inside I found a money bag. Out. No sticks.
I located the tree to house, clicked and clicked, no sticks.. You think is easy to find. Absolutely NO. A ghost attacked me with flying self-targeting fire bombs-sculls. Many ghouls around.
@3
Resting i made a trick and visit this Underground with trolls and magic axe. First time i was unable to leave it. Now i take the Axe, steal the key and then used Teleport device to safely return in CT>

y

:thumbs:

[Paco]

To get the hood, follow the dirt path back through the archway and then head east, perpindicular to the road. You'll have to go south 5 or ten steps too. You'll find a pit with changelings in it. At the center is an island of sorts with executioner's hood on it.

Can not find it! Is this Hood in cemetery or outside?

"follow the dirt path back through the archway"

Exit Cemetery and go East.

http://www.uo.com/archive/ftp/maps/u8/exechodw.gif


To get the sticks, Teleport to Central Tenebrae and head west to west Tenebrae. You'll find the sticks under a tree in the northwest area. (15150,3050,56,39) There will be a ghost and a burnt out building nearby.
Get the sticks.
Can not get it! I approached burned out house, enter it and uncovered a Maze. Inside I found a money bag. Out. No sticks.
I located the tree to house, clicked and clicked, no sticks.. You think is easy to find. Absolutely NO. A ghost attacked me with flying self-targeting fire bombs-sculls. Many ghouls around.

"find the sticks under a tree"

Its not IN Tree but under it.

http://www.uo.com/archive/ftp/maps/u8/spirromw.gif

[Scatty]

Those sticks are called Elbow of Dead or similar, click once on them to see the name displayed.

[yoga]

Hey, Paco and Scatty,

how is possible YOU both have so remarkable memory?
Of course all is OK.
Sticks and hode are found (thanks these nice graphics Paco provided), special key received and yoga "On the road again" - old Canned Heat song.

Well, because I am tired to say every time YOU helped me
Thank You, Danke sehr, Merci, Spasibo, so let deal:
Every time I say : Hi, Hello, Paco or/and Scatty that means:::::
Thank You Paco or/and Scatty.
Agreed? Nice.

Grateful yoga (not dead)

:thumbs:

Q: Dear Scatty, why YOU never are in ChatBox, if YOU do not mind?
This Q is very polite and YOU may right not to answer. TY

[Scatty]

Q: Dear Scatty, why YOU never are in ChatBox, if YOU do not mind?
This Q is very polite and YOU may right not to answer. TY
Simply - because I'm not hanging around here all the time. Just visiting from time to time to see through threads and maybe post on some, so it's usually not worth it to write something in the chatbox.

[yoga]

To do my mission I need Open Ground magic.
It is require 2 ingredients Blackmore (have) + Blood (havent)

Walk through stated:
There is also blood at the cemetary. (Where? Bottle?Color?)
NOTE: There is ONE place where you may have missed a vial of
blood - exit West Tenebrae and go to a waterfall. Look for a cave.
(Where?)
Mythran sales?

[Paco]

There is also blood at the cemetary. (Where? Bottle?Color?)
NOTE: There is ONE place where you may have missed a vial of
blood - exit West Tenebrae and go to a waterfall. Look for a cave.


http://img692.imageshack.us/img692/9155/u8012.png

Mythran Plateau is NOT West Tenebrae.

http://img31.imageshack.us/img31/8697/u8011.png

besides pile of Earth is the Blood which you search for, but Im Necromancer House should also have lots and lots of Reagents which you can take.

[yoga]

By the way I found in some of my many bags Blood so i create my first magic Open Ground and entered the Catacombs.

But now I will back to this cave (i know it and entered but nasty skeleton attacked me and i leave it) to have more Blood reagent. Right of waterfall are some more ingredients.

May i wear Ceremonial Shield from Mythran wall?

[Scatty]

May i wear Ceremonial Shield from Mythran wall?
It's not a piece of equipment you can put on, it serves another purpose which you'll discover soon after you've visited the Mountain King and returned to Vividos.

[yoga]

Maybe I make fatal mistake:
- I entered UC using Open Ground magic, but without learned Death of Speak magic and no any collected reagents. After entrance I save (1).
In my back sack are: bedroll, teleport device, money bag (about 300 coins), 4 death disks, keyring with some keys, caretaker key and 1 fish only..Desperately I left the UC to learn 2-nd magic. New trouble! After me the rocks closed the entrance.. But how one may know this unpredictable fact??
Crying all the time I visited the cave under waterfall, Paco directed me and bring in my HQ (near the Recall pad in Great Palace) in CT 2 bottles of blood. Save (2).
Well, i am still able to make new Open Ground magic and Death of Speak magic, having 2 Blood bottles and 4 shards bones.
Q: From what save point to start the game?
Q2: If Yes, what reagents to prepare in my sack to avoid similar mistakes before enter again UC?

[Paco]

In my back sack are: bedroll, teleport device, money bag (about 300 coins), 4 death disks, keyring with some keys, caretaker key and 1 fish only..

huh? you didnt collect Potions and Scrolls? There are many in City to find.

Q: From what save point to start the game?

The first Savestate is reserved and start the Game anew and cannot be override.

Q2: If Yes, what reagents to prepare in my sack to avoid similar mistakes before enter again UC?

Blood and Bone arent the only Reagent you will need. There is also Blackmoor, Wood and Dirt. Collect as much you can.

[yoga]

Report before enter again Upper Catacombs.

1.Location – Now I am in my HQ, ready to start.
2.Status – Str. 25
Int. 16
Dex. 25
Arm 6
Hits 50
Mana 32
Wght 48 (full)
3. Armor Battle axe
4. Condition Both magic are ready – Open Ground and Dead Speak
5. I read all 3 Walk through and know the map very well. I know where is Recall pad. I know what magic will learn in UC and its reagents.
What I have in my sack:
1.Bag - empty
2.Keyring with 4 keys.
3.Teleport device
4.Caretaker key
5.Bedroll
6.2 above magics
7.Scroll of invisibility
8.Scroll of trap detection
9.Scroll of trap destruction
10.Restore to sight scroll
11.Red potion – 5 pieces
12.Rocks 3 pcs.
13.Pile of bone shards – 3 pcs.
14.Piece of wood 3 pcs.
15.Yellow potion 2 pcs
16.Blue potion 1 pc
17.Pink potion 1 pc
18.Hood 2 pcs
19.Pile of dirt 1 pc
20.Flask of oil 2 pcs
Total 48 of 50. There are 2 free places.

I wait some advices, recommendations of above listing??

:thumbs:

[Scatty]

Report before enter again Upper Catacombs.

1.Location – Now I am in my HQ, ready to start.
2.Status – Str. 25
Int. 16
Dex. 25
Arm 6
Hits 50
Mana 32
Wght 48 (full)
3. Armor Battle axe
You mean you have armor only 6? You should have bought arm guards, plate mail leggings and great helmet from the smith in East Tenebrae with which you would have around 11 armor. Not that the armor class helps much in this game but it helps anyway.
And what did you mean with Armor Battle axe? :dunno:

[yoga]

Sorry, it is Arms -Battle Axe
This is the axe I token at the Slayer.. Very nice weapon..

Well, I started Save point 1 - Without abs. one reagents. Practically havent Nothing in my sack.
But before empty sack beats a hearth of lion. So I started the game entering Upper Catacombs. Now I am after the double-black-doors in Stone cave , directed to the Mountain King.
My battle tactic was : Run and no fight, instinctively understand than with armor 6 only I am a week fighter. Now my armor is 12, I have good shield, many reagents, only on the long road I loosed my money, now have 30 coins only (I hope to return back after while and find the money bag - is that possible, Scatty?)
The game is very nice..! I enjoyed..
But without kind support of well respected Paco and Scatty and 3 walk troughs i will be down.
(I loosed 2 kg, gaming 2 days non stop.. Slept 5 hours only..)

Hurray!
:3:

[Scatty]

I hope to return back after while and find the money bag - is that possible, Scatty?
Depending on where you dropped it, the bag will likely be still there. On some areas however (those where reagents re-spawn if you pick some up lying aroung, leave the area and re-enter it) I think items you leave lying around disappear after a time. As there's a limited amount of bags available in the game, even if many, losing them permanently is not advised.

[yoga]

Depending on where you dropped it, the bag will likely be still there. On some areas however (those where reagents re-spawn if you pick some up lying aroung, leave the area and re-enter it) I think items you leave lying around disappear after a time. As there's a limited amount of bags available in the game, even if many, losing them permanently is not advised.

Yes, I has 2 bags..

But now I meet problem to jump 2 disappearing platform after I lure the golem..
Have to be very fast.
As Prince of Persia 1 at level 8.. Do YOU remember that moment.. after a while the small mouse will help Prince to continue..
Sadly here I have no help from nice Princess, closed in dungeon by bad Jaffar..
Ha ha
nice memory

[yoga]

At last home!

Sweet home Alabama.

Status: I have Key of Scion.
Target: Shrine.

(Because I am short of money, i may again hit the road in UC.
Or goto Shrine).

[yoga]

My attempt to find my money bag during the long road in UC failed.
So i return and started battles with Changelogs, which seems to attack in series of 2 and give about 20 coins after killing. I kept about 170 coins.

What to do?
To buy some equipment and increase my current armor (12)?
Or buy scrolls and magics from Mythran?

[Paco]

I never buyed Armor and Weapon since i found all i need over Tenebrae and everwhere, but you can buy Magic Book from Mythran.

Oh also buy a Scroll to open Door. You will need it. You can drop Money and what you dont need in Mythran House. So you can always come back and get it if you need it.

I had many Bags for different Stuff.

1 Bag for mixing Reagents. 1 Bag for Potions, 1 Bag for Necromany Reagents, 1 Bag for Sorcery Reagents, 1 Bag for Air Magic, etc...

[Scatty]

What to do?
To buy some equipment and increase my current armor (12)?
Or buy scrolls and magics from Mythran?
With the armor you can buy from Korrick the blacksmith in East Tenebrae + large shield you should be able to come up to armor class of 17. Later you'll find magic armor parts which can, if worn all together, increase your armor up to 25. There's also a secret (called cheat) room which you can reach through Lower Catacombs (accessible from Upper Catacombs you've been to already) where you can find almost all normal / magical weapons and armor found in the game, which is handy early on especially if you want to grab the useful fire shield (permanent Armor of Flames cast if worn). But it's a bit tricky to find.

[yoga]

@Paco
Yes, yr method of Bag's collection of a stuff is effective and I used it.
I bought the Scroll for Door opening from Mythran.

@Scatty
I bayed some armor from the Smith (Btw, i tried to steel some thing in Smith shop and ... ha ha was blown up by some executer) - now i reach 16.

Note: I understand the money bag loose.
I meet maybe bug problem.. Being in UC suddenly in my back sack appeared a image of environment like grey cliff, which results in decrease of used space in. Moreover if some bag is on this image, after while it disappeared.
So my 500 coins which were in the bag, which was on the image disappeared.

Maybe new sack will solve the bug.. But I must again search for new sack elsewhere. Sadly i forget where i met a sack..

[Scatty]

There IS a bug connected with carrying a backpack in the character's main backpack. Still wasn't fixed with the patch. What happened to you is exactly this bug. Don't carry backpacks in your backpack, always carry only bags and you should be fine. Don't use small boxes either to store things, they have a pretty limited space capability compared to bags. Never tried baskets though, but you can carry those in your backpack too I think.

[yoga]

Scatty, abs. true.

Pls if YOU are there tell me ASAP how, if possible, to change this DAMAGED backpack with new one which I found before Zealans doors..

BTW there is a mistake in Clue Books for UC 6 plaque
page 81 Zealans, row 3 from above:
There is stated :..plaque says Towards fare do you travel === Wrong
The right has to be ...plaque says B]The birthplace of Moriems...[/B]

waiting yoga

[Paco]

BTW there is a mistake in Clue Books for UC 6 plaque
page 81 Zealans, row 3 from above:
There is stated :..plaque says Towards fare do you travel === Wrong
The right has to be ...plaque says B]The birthplace of Moriems...

no, throught the Patch the Birthplace now exist, before there wasnt...

Its the same for Sticks. Before its was just named sticks but after the Patch it got the Name "Deads Man Elbow"...

[yoga]

Sure, there is a patch for the plaque..For me this isnt problem at all.
Another non clear point.
In same page, row 9 from above stated:
..Hint: There is a dead body with a book ... Shield.
But these things were not in body, but in a new back sack in my case..
This sack I beg for help is possible to change with bugged one..

My problem was the possible change of the back sack with new one.. But..

!!This stairway puzzle make me crazy.!!
I lost 3 hours and just 1 minute to end the stupid clock jumped and disappeared..

Mates, where store the clock between the putting on relevant stair?

Never in my game life i meet such a difficult puzzle..

Wow!

I give up and goto bed to recharge..

Viva..

[Scatty]

Another non clear point.
In same page, row 9 from above stated:
..Hint: There is a dead body with a book ... Shield.
But these things were not in body, but in a new back sack in my case..
Few items locations / placements were changed slightly with the patch.

This sack I beg for help is possible to change with bugged one..

My problem was the possible change of the back sack with new one.. But..
What do you mean with change the backpack? Is this buggy texture still in your backpack if you open it? Alas, you can't replace your main backpack with some another found one, because it is you MAIN backpack. If this bug is still there, which I can imagine is quite nasty, I only hope you still have a savegame before encountering this bug, otherwise it might mean you're stuck with it until the end of the game.

!!This stairway puzzle make me crazy.!!
I lost 3 hours and just 1 minute to end the stupid clock jumped and disappeared..

Mates, where store the clock between the putting on relevant stair?

Never in my game life i meet such a difficult puzzle..

Wow!

I give up and goto bed to recharge..

Viva..
Yeah this puzzle is a bit tough indeed. I hope you also have a savegame before you messed around with the stair puzzle as it requires an untouched state for the solution. You can also simply step in the plates instead of putting the clock on them. Here's the solution:

If the westernmost (left) platform is 1, the center 2 and the easternmost (right) platform is 3, then you should stand in front of plate number 2 and pick up the clock.
Now, place the clock on the plates in this pattern: 313 212 312 321 313 212 132 312 313 212.

[yoga]

Yes, this nasty texture is always in my sack, :(
so i decide to back to saved game before disaster.

I will start with my task to collect Hood and sticks.
Well, for some time i will be busy to play again the game but the acquired experience will help me much. But I play day and night so little patience and powerful yog will back again to defeat Guardian..

Q1: Is some person in Tenebrae who will buy my collected stuff as in WoX where player may sale and buy from Smith ?

Q2: Who is the Slayer? The troll from beginning, the troll far left with the women where i steal the key or some in the coffin far right where i visited jumping on the stepping stones?

Note1: I will follow Clue Book mainly as well 3 more walk through.

Note2: Trying to solve above puzzle, I created Golem but after my order it says: Ugh and stopped. Can not helped me.

@ Paco:
After yr advise I left my 400 coins to the banker named Mythran.
He works in a stable Swiss bank..It is a joke of course..
Anyway yr advise to collect my stuff in bags is very good..
And showing me the diff. situations with shots is very nice.

[Paco]

Q1: Is some person in Tenebrae who will buy my collected stuff as in WoX where player may sale and buy from Smith ?

Well, there is none...

Q2: Who is the Slayer? The troll from beginning, the troll far left with the women where i steal the key or some in the coffin far right where i visited jumping on the stepping stones

Slayer is a Magic Weapon you can find in this Dungeon. you know more if you read the book in the Library.

Note2: Trying to solve above puzzle, I created Golem but after my order it says: Ugh and stopped. Can not helped me.

Golem is only helpful for opening Door and fighting, but not for solving Puzzle coz he is too dumb :p

[Scatty]

Well, there is none...
Well there is one, the widow Rhian in East Tenebrae buys the occasional rings and gems (the non-exploding, normal ones) from you. The same one to steal jewelry from and sell to again.
Aside of her, there's nobody else in the game who buys anything from you. Guess economy is not the main strength of people there.

[yoga]

Ha ha ha

Unfortunately, boss give me to much work to do..

Rats!! The game is so Nice ..

Mates, I found a strange Death disk which refuses to explode?
It is a nice mark for some locations..

Dear and well respected Paco, may I offer a change in the Clue Book?

For example: In page 76, 12 rows from down, before entering Catacombs is ghoul and a valuable chest with magic leggings? Remember?
OK. My method is very simple and easy. No need to press trembling both mouse buttons, but simply climb up the platform and jump near ghoul - kill it and Voilaa..

Last Q: I found too much Fire gems? Are they usable?

Greetings

[Paco]

Last Q: I found too much Fire gems? Are they usable?


It works the same as Molotov Bottle. You click on it double to start it and then throw it before it explode.

[yoga]

Rats!!

Boss....

yoga overwhelmed by work.

YOU know the Murphy rule:
..When one want to play, then devil send him work and work and work.

working yoga
:(((

[Scatty]

Working has to be sometimes too. No work, no holidays ;)

[yoga]

Sure, but my hands trembling to play, not to work on never ending projects.

LOL

There is seen light in the tunnel end.. :))

[yoga]

Hello again,

yoga is On the road again. Yes, I completed one project of unlimited ones.

I have a conversation with my boss telling that i will strike, if..

So we agreed the next Contract:

..Boss hereafter named as BOSS is obliged to free yoga from his duties until yoga solves the puzzle.
..yoga hereafter named as PLAYER is obliged to continue work on 2-nd and others projects after he solves the puzzle..

This Contract is completed in two uniform copies.. one per each side..

ha ha ha

well, i started U8 again and now i have nice clear sack with 4 bags, storage is good organized acc. to Paco advices.

Rest, one coffee, and starting Chinese-like puzzle solution..

Note: Mates, if YOU play this game, pls. take care that battles with ghouls may be trap for YOU.
Why, yog?
Because they use to fall down before YOU, after killing this way stopped yr move.
Be careful!

:thumbs:

[yoga]

Hello,
I am on the mystery.
The aim is to make the middle pillar.

Let me clarify things:

Before me, there are three of so-called groups of ladders.
From left to right are 1, 2 and 3 group.
Each group consists of 4 ladders that rise up and down by an unknown algorithm.
For example, the ladder N 4 of group 3 is 34, similar ladder 2 from group 2 is 22, etc. Yes?

I got through the Clue book ..
31 32 12 31 23 21 31 32 12 23 23 12 31 32 12

Scatty said:
If the westernmost (left) platform is 1, the center 2 and the easternmost (right) platform is 3, then you should stand in front of plate number 2 and pick up the clock.
Now, place the clock on the plates in this pattern:
313 212 312 321 313 212 132 312 313 212.

Scatty shows the same numbers in another row

I did a lot of tests and sometimes watch disappears when applied.

Ok.
I place the watch onto ladder 1 from group 3. (31)
Then I take the watch and place on ladder 2 from group 3. (32).
Then I take the watch and place on ladder 1 from group 2. (12).
Correct?

:wall:

[Paco]

For example, the ladder N 4 of group 3 is 34, similar ladder 2 from group 2 is 22, etc. Yes?

I place the watch onto ladder 1 from group 3. (31)
Then I take the watch and place on ladder 2 from group 3. (32).
Then I take the watch and place on ladder 1 from group 2. (12).
Correct?

No. As you can see there is no 4 in Patternnumber so this is wrong.


Now, place the clock on the plates in this pattern:
313 212 312 321 313 212 132 312 313 212.

That is what you should do.

[yoga]

Caramba!!

2 hours tests and nothing!!!

I am crazy!

I put the watch on the showed ladders..
Maybe must up the ladder before place the watch on it, otherwise watch may press slightly the next ladder?
Maybe must not step even slightly on the ladder?

Rats!!

Same puzzle authors must be ...:((

Don't laugh on poor yoga, pls..

I am very angry.. yes, I am..

[yoga]

SOS

What 313 means?

Please. please, please..

unhappy yog

[Paco]

What 313 means?

Place Clock on Plate 3 (right), then on Plate 1 (left) and then Plate 3 (right).
Plate 2 is (central). The Plates are before the Stairs (not Ladder).

This is the endresult:

http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/walk/birth6.jpg

[Capo]

Hello again,

yoga is On the road again. Yes, I completed one project of unlimited ones.

I have a conversation with my boss telling that i will strike, if..

So we agreed the next Contract:

..Boss hereafter named as BOSS is obliged to free yoga from his duties until yoga solves the puzzle.
..yoga hereafter named as PLAYER is obliged to continue work on 2-nd and others projects after he solves the puzzle..

This Contract is completed in two uniform copies.. one per each side..



I want this contract too :lust:

[yoga]

@Capo - No problem, Bro. :))

@Paco - Rodger that.

Today I started and set another great game - UW2 and
watched TV English Football League.
Viva West Ham!!
Today was lazy day for lazy yoga.. :))
Ha ha

[yoga]

The wise YOGA has the pleasure to announce HE solved this easy puzzle..

God Bless Yoga!

LOL

[yoga]

Wow !!

Some potions (red) are poisoned?

Ha ha I drank in Prince of Persia 1 at level 8 same potion and was killed LOL

So, Save first.

I am like a hero of book of Russian author Gogol " Dead souls" Plushkin, who collect every debris even a piece of paper on the farm ground. I reach weight 99..

Note: It is not fair to have no info Avatar must carry Cer. shield on the road..

Thanks to Golem..

@Paco
Dear and well respected Paco, may I politely disagree with Yr statement Golem is dump. I have no C. Shield with me (it is heavy and I left it in my HQ).
But thanks to Golem -it opened the required door- I found new shield and back to Ghor room..
:))

Off
(Btw my avatar in UW2 is named Paco. Everyone know the reason -gratitude).

Now I respectably has to follow my obligation after the Contract above mentioned..

Q: Why yoga is so clever?
A: Because yoga is yoga and drinks yogurt..

Hurray

[Paco]

Some potions (red) are poisoned?

no, Red Potions heal you completely.

http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/red.gif Red - fully restores your health unless you are completely healthy, in which case your hit points may be reduced drastically.

http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/yellow.gif Yellow - restores 10-12 hit points.


http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/orange.gif Orange - increases mana by 10-12 points.


http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/green.gif Green - You lose 10-12 hit points once when you drink the green potion.


http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/blue.gif Blue - puts you to sleep for a few seconds.


http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/purple.gif Purple - makes you invulnerable for 60-90 seconds.


http://gigi.nullneuron.net/ultima/u8/items/potions/black.gif Black - makes you invisible for 60-90 seconds.

[yoga]

Hi,
After a little problem with Google Chrome browser (now I am using Firefox) I am back.
I lost 3 days in Isle. Think that Clue Book is not so clear conc. these dialogies between Torwin, Xavier, Cyrrios and others..
Have to make Bane test. But these Aphelion, Mezosteel Pa, Ze make me little confused.. ha ha
Note: My teleport in UC does not work, so I am forced to start from cemetary building again.
Trolls are not problem for me yet. I plan to upgrade my Protector in UC entrance to...

:D

[yoga]

Mates,

I need advise. I am in Library in Sorsecers Enclave and have to make spells. Around me are 2 mages, non stop speaking.
I decide to make tests here instead of carrying bunch of reagents to Bena new house.
Ok. I did first 2 spells -Estinguich and Ignite and prepare for 3-th.
Pls, tell me how spells had to be made. 3 or all 9?
YOU may PM me.

Merci.

:ph34r:

(Off info -
My Chrome browser is out of order - Problem with Sync !?)

[Paco]

Sorcery is abit complicated and you have to be very exact...

Hope this help:

Sorcery (http://www.pdragon.net/u8/u8part52.html)

[yoga]

Sorcery is abit complicated and you have to be very exact...

Hope this help:

Sorcery (http://www.pdragon.net/u8/u8part52.html)

Absolutely true!

It is real pain to place reagents on the right point!
Yes, I did 4 spells and fail of Armor of Flames (lost 3 hours, in vain).
So the above link has a weird words - balance the reagent on top of the candle- but I will try.
(Mates, do not use the Hint to make spells in Library. Only time loose. I lost 1 day to follow this foolush advice..Believe me).

Here i answered the respected Yosarian, conc. our conversation in ChatBox -
I said , the U8 is like a fairy tale..meaning this nice coloring and music.
Yosarian first said s(he) never played game , then said that it is terrible tale with wizards, kidnapping and so on..With all my respect I disagree politely..
Well, well I do not mean Paragraph 22
LOL

Why from time to time the game image becomes blurr? Then cleared, then again blurr? Its annoying me..

:giggles:

[Scatty]

Why from time to time the game image becomes blurr? Then cleared, then again blurr? Its annoying me..

:giggles:
Well two possible reasons for that.
One is your monitor is failing you and you might want to consider to get a new one.
Another is your eyes are failing you due to being tired from too much playing, and you might consider getting a break :p

[yoga]

No, no
I think the blurr is game trick.
Moreover i have 4 monitors...;)
Yes. Yesterday i played the game till 4 p.m.

OK.
Now seriosly:
I met the terrible problem and I am very upset..
.. I am in Obsidian Forttress. I did all and take all required 4 symbols.. It was very hard. I remembered how avatar is transformed being in blue ball, rolling on the lava..Nice moment. I made shot..

The PROBLEM:
- I am unable to back to Arcadion (OF.2) using teleporter (OF.5)!.
Recall device doest work at all. This is not fail.This is scenario.
I go up-down the teleporter, jump, and make some action-- in vain..

I analyze all my past actions - the only difference is that I did my first test with Bena in her original house, not in Morduin house.
But if some mistake in my game, I would not enter Obsisdian door, which opened without my action but because I did 1 test correctly..

All the morning I cry and cry disconsolately.

:suspicious:

[Paco]

The PROBLEM:
- I am unable to back to Arcadion (OF.2) using teleporter (OF.5)!.
Recall device doest work at all. This is not fail.This is scenario.
I go up-down the teleporter, jump, and make some action-- in vain..


simple: You cant teleport from there. You have to go outside, since Obsidian Fortress is blocking your teleporting.

[Scatty]

But he also wrote that he can't go outside since the teleport platform between the 4 pillars doesn't work. Are you sure you have all 4 symbols with you in the backback, Yoga? Also did you charge any of those 4 blue pentagram symbols with some spell on the pentagram in that room with the crazy sorcerer who attack(ed) you? They have all 4 to be empty.

[yoga]

I have in my sack in Obsidian Fortress:


Symbol – Blue colored pentagram on gray background
Symbol – Blue colored pentagram on gray background
I have no 4 blue colored symbols but 2 only? Maybe this is the reason??
Symbol of Summon daemon with 1 use remaining - red colored pentagram on gray background
Symbol of Bannish daemon with 1 use remaining - red colored pentagram on gray background
Symbol of Flash bolt with 1 use remaining - red colored pentagram on gray background ( think i did in my 1 test) All 5 have oval – like form.
Rod of Endure heat with 9 uses remaining
Rod of Endure heat with 4 uses remaining
Rod of Extenguish with 13 uses remaining
Wand of Flash with 17 uses remaining
(think i did 6,7,8 in my tests)
No charged wand
BTW, the crazy sorcerer is unmovable and safe now.
May I use this wand on the sorcerer pentagram to make new spell?
For example – The Armor of Flames? I had problem to do this spell in OF. In first stage. I did balance of all reagents on the candles as Paco advice me, but 2 hours bows were in vain. What is the reason – Candles correctly placed and lit. Reagents on candles. Rod or wand placed in the center of the pentagram.
Center? The image is in perspective, inclined view. The all thing is God will. I placed and placed and placed the rod..Pain..


:crybaby:

[Scatty]

I have no 4 blue colored symbols but 2 only? Maybe this is the reason??
I did all and take all required 4 symbols..
Didn't you write in your post further above you have all 4 blue colored symbols already? If you have only 2 it IS the reason. You need to gather all 4 in order to be able to leave through the teleport platform in the center.


BTW, the crazy sorcerer is unmovable and safe now.
May I use this wand on the sorcerer pentagram to make new spell?
For example – The Armor of Flames? I had problem to do this spell in OF. In first stage. I did balance of all reagents on the candles as Paco advice me, but 2 hours bows were in vain. What is the reason – Candles correctly placed and lit. Reagents on candles. Rod or wand placed in the center of the pentagram.
Center? The image is in perspective, inclined view. The all thing is God will. I placed and placed and placed the rod..Pain..


:crybaby:
Yes you can charge any uncharged symbols / staves / rods / demon heads (NO blue-colored symbols) on his pentagram. As about balancing the reagents, try to click on them to drag but don't move yet, see how a white shadow appears behind them indicating that you can drag them and then drag them VERY slowly, pixel by pixel. Try reposition them like that, often it is a matter of single pixel-relocation before a spell would be charged. Also move them as close to the tips of pentagram as possible, but watch out that they position doesn't overlap any of the candles, which would be looking as if the reagent is over a candle.

[yoga]

Yes, I did mistake with message all Blue colored symbols are collected. In fact, I have only 2 blue and 3 red symbols.
Again in lava?

Oh, mama mia..

[Scatty]

Red symbols don't play any role in the test of the Obsidian Fortress, you have to collect 4 blue symbols. So I'm afraid yes, lava is calling you :p

[yoga]

..and now the last news from BBC:

..The powerful yoga conquers Obsidian Fortress.. All 4 blue symbols and 10 of 11 magics are completed..
The people cheers..
:thumbs:
Well.
Howto:
If y use the 4 magical symbols to cast spells, y'll get an infinitive number of charges.

together?

:wall:

[Scatty]

Howto:
If y use the 4 magical symbols to cast spells, y'll get an infinitive number of charges.

together?

:wall:
What? :wondering:
If you mean how to put spells on the blue symbols, you charge them the same way as all other Sorcery foci. Only that the blue symbols can cast any spell indefinitely, and that they're unstable which means every time you cast a spell of a blue symbol there's a chance it will explode instead and hurt you a bit, while it's left empty with no spell on it anymore. At which point you can charge it again with a spell.

[yoga]

Situation:
- He summons 2 daemons and they all 3 attacked me very effectively.
Rats!!
I tryed some tricks : Get invisible - no effect - The attacks of this bastard Melchir hit me bad.
Drink Potions non stop. - No help.
Moreover the small battle field limits my manoeuvres.

My condition:

Str: 25
Int: 18
Dex:25
Armor: 30
Hits:50
Mana: 36
WGHT: 94
Protector
Good shield
Magic Armor, Helm and leggins.
2 invisible potions and many other potions.

Would be so kind to help:
Q:
1. To destroy first Melchir?
2. To destroy first 2 Daemons?

If case 1 - what magics, spells and so on are the best?
If case 2 - what magics, spells and so on are the best?

Rock flesh will helps?

Is this the final battle or one of final battles?

:3:

[Scatty]

Situation:
- He summons 2 daemons and they all 3 attacked me very effectively.
Rats!!
I tryed some tricks : Get invisible - no effect - The attacks of this bastard Melchir hit me bad.
Drink Potions non stop. - No help.
Moreover the small battle field limits my manoeuvres.

My condition:

Str: 25
Int: 18
Dex:25
Armor: 30
Hits:50
Mana: 36
WGHT: 94
Protector
Good shield
Magic Armor, Helm and leggins.
2 invisible potions and many other potions.

Would be so kind to help:
Q:
1. To destroy first Melchir?
2. To destroy first 2 Daemons?

If case 1 - what magics, spells and so on are the best?
If case 2 - what magics, spells and so on are the best?

Rock flesh will helps?

Is this the final battle or one of final battles?

:3:
Err... didn't he say after you returned to him with the symbols that you need to cast specific spells on him, and that if you cast anything else he'll attack you (failure is death or similar)? You need to cast those spells he mentions in exact order on him, and also have Banish Demon ready beside what he mentions. Also Ignite will be useful after he takes you with him to summon Pyros, and have 1 red candle ready in backpack with you.

[yoga]

I destroyed Melchir..

Very easy.
How?

I took this special sword. Left of stairs to Melchir apartment.
This time Melchir -the idiot- killed one of the created daemon. Nice.
I created Rock flesh and used on me. Then I attacked the remaining daemon and easy finished. Save. Now I decided to back in M. apartment (it is a safe place and recharge but decided to try beat Melchir) and start battle with Melchir.

Ha, after 6-7 hits the bastard was finished. .
And my health indicator was on Max.
I think this special sword helped me much.
Because it decrease my Armor points, but when I try with Protector , which is more powerful that this special sword, Melchir killed me without problem.

So yoga defeated Melchir, as 2 years ago defeated Lord Xeen with active help of nice Paco, Scatty, Capo and Kmonster..

My deep bow and respect to these gentlemen..

How one may repay for this huge help and support?

Please, tell me, mates?

Ty

yoga
never forget helpers and
never betrayed his friends.

(Even some times some "friends" are not really friends.
But C'est la vie - said Paco. Non safe and gentle.)

For a while I will stop this project, assuming I finished the game U8..

LOL

[Paco]

For a while I will stop this project, assuming I finished the game U8..

Until you have escaped Pagan you have NOT finished U8. You have still much work to do. :D

[Scatty]

For a while I will stop this project, assuming I finished the game U8..

LOL
That was a good joke LOL
Malchir is not even close as dangerous as Pyros, and you've got still to defeat all 4 titans in order to escape Pagan to Britannia. Guess it was Malchir who defeated you :3:

[yoga]

OK, OK, dont cry, amigo..

Little rest and On the road again..

I missed a important scene ( Denon is bro of Mordea and first Tempest and ) was in ruins.

But stupid yoga made a copy of Safegame folder every 2 hours..

So I am now to ..?

ha ha
yoga the teaser

[yoga]

Hi,
How the Avatar opens the second guards' barrack in CT?

[Scatty]

You mean those two doors near the town gate? Climb up to the bridge above them and enter it from the second floor, the doors above aren't locked. There should be also a key somewhere on Pagan that unlocks the bottom level doors but don't ask me where. I know I have found it frequently earlier while playing through.

[yoga]

Actually i am much more forward in the game but want to know why they are closed so hard..

Well, the reasons for my long silence are two:

1- I am in the capital of BG - Sofia town. And I am forced to DL the game from my flash drive and play it.

2- I started the game about 4-5 times.
Because this game is very strict..One move in incorrect direction and you out.
The question is:
How one player will know s/he/ is on the correct path?
The answer:
Put down some money around Recall pad in Mythran house.
And after every important action, save then use Recall pad device to goto Mythran..
If you see the money, all is OK and y may continue forward.
If y dont see the money, something is wrong.
Or Mythran will not sale you the reagent required.

Had to back and find the correct point and start from this point.

yog

[Scatty]

Put down some money around Recall pad in Mythran house.
And after every important action, save then use Recall pad device to goto Mythran..
If you see the money, all is OK and y may continue forward.
If y dont see the money, something is wrong.
Just put the money into the backpack in the backroom at Mythran in the barrel, the one which contains the magic dagger, and it will never disappear from there. No worries anymore.

[AnimatedCorpse]

Wow, I'm going to have to install this one all over again. I actually own a legit CD version which was given to me back in the 1990s by a family member. I don't think I have played it since then. I got stuck once or twice at the same spot (in the castle of some noble as I remember) and I gave up on it. This is the only Ultima game I have played on the PC, aside from a SNES game long time ago. (Not sure which one. This was nearly 20 years ago.)

[yoga]

Yes,
I climb up the 2-nd floor and I enter the barrack. Nothing interesting.
But you know the feeling when one wants to know how is that and what?

y

:)

[yoga]

Dear Scatty, pls can you tell me:
-- Xavier the monk refused to accept the Foci I took from suicided son of Riah..and was stolen before..--
I bring the Foci and he answer me: What? You have not my Foci... ??!!??
?? That is not true..
I am afraid that this will remove me from the game..
Is it a fatal error?

Spasibo.

[Scatty]

Eventhough you have the focus that was stolen, he doesn't want it. He always takes YOUR focus instead, the one you had made by the smith in Tenebrae and enchanted on the altar. Kinda funny bug in the game I guess.
So if you don't have your foci with you, have them in your backpack and talk with him again. Don't worry, the stolen focus is the same so you can cast from him afterwards.

[yoga]

Mythran asks for 1000 coins for magic Devastation.
I have 300 only..
Many battles are required for this sum..
New idea?

y

[Scatty]

At the Carthax Lake teleport location, if you run a bit to the right on the upper side of the wall (north-east) there's a troll you can kill. If you leave the area through the cave near the teleport plate and re-enter it, the troll is there again. Since they drop usually much stuff and almost always around 50-90 obsidian coins you can stock up that way. Use one of the air foki to become invulnerable and the battle is easy.

[yoga]

:thumbs:

[yoga]

Hi, Scatty,

First of all
Merry Christmas

...Well, Xavier still refuses to accept his Foci and I am very upset, because this way I am unable to continue the game..
I started the game 4 times and I am sure that I have to overcome this bug, otherwise welcome UW 2.

desperate yoga

[Scatty]

Hi, Scatty,

First of all
Merry Christmas

...Well, Xavier still refuses to accept his Foci and I am very upset, because this way I am unable to continue the game..
I started the game 4 times and I am sure that I have to overcome this bug, otherwise welcome UW 2.

desperate yoga
Christmas? :weird:
Are you sure you picked up the focus that the guy left lying behind when he ran into falling in water? Maybe dropping it and picking it up again will help? Or leave one of the foki lying on the floor and see if he takes the other one. Try with each of the two foki.

[yoga]

I continued my gaming and regularly visited this one. At last (he was outside the monastiry) he accepted the foci..:thumbs:
.. Yes, this troll , around Lake teleport provided me with enough money. Danke sehr.
.. Scatty, it is like fog of the war..no, no any spectacles..
Just the image was blurr-like then again clear and so on..

yoga


:doh:

[Scatty]

Maybe it's your graphics card giving up it's breath. Didn't encounter such thing ever with any Dos-games and DosBox so far, so there must be something wrong with either your graphics card or the monitor.

[Capo]

Hey Yoga, have you managed to finish the game ?

[yoga]

Hi, Capo,

Shame, real shame for stupid yoga.

(Amigo, do YOU finished Daggerfall? Ha ha)

Now seriously.

YOU, mates, know that yoga is tenacious gamer. Xeen, Ravenloft 1 & 2 , now Daggerfall showed that I have potential.
OK, I started 5 (five) times U8. I have 2 Clue books and detailed Maps. I had the valuable help of well respected Paco and Scatty. I had the all time of the world.
I strictly followed the instructions and ... nothing.
- What "nothing", stupid yog?

Yes, i reached the Pit of Dead and the game refused to create Demon and much more. The Wizard refused to instructed me without any my fail?
What to do?

- Again, stupid one!
OK. Again. Same result.
Anyway I am not beggar to whine - Pls. Scatty, pls Paco, ty Capo..

No, no bug in game. Maybe bug in yog's head. Dunno.

Well, I plan to play Daggerfall, the UW2 and maybe again start U8..

So, if forum likes stupid bulgarian yoga, let some good hearted gentleman sends this fool one correct save file let say before Pit of Dead to finish at last this nice game. I know that is non moral act and against our Gamer philosophy, but I am desperate... For first time in my game life I beg similar file. Tears in my eyes..Yes..
:crybaby:
My thanks..

grateful yoga

Excuse me dear Paco, Scatty and Capo.
My deeeeeeep respect..
:(

[twillight]

Someone could tell me how to controll this game?

I just managed to kill me right at the starting screen pushing the sleepbag into the fire, then trying to pick it up, and that sucks.

Pls don't miss to tell me how to get access to inventory!

[Scatty]

When you move the mouse towards the four edges of the screen, there will be direction arrows pointing at that direction. When you click right mouse button while it's in the position of these direction arrows, and hold it, you begin to walk, or run there as long as the mouse button is held. The further your mouse is to the edge of the screen, the faster you move.
Also the fire will burn you. Not much damage, but it adds up. You don't need to walk into fire to get something out of there (things won't burn in fire, btw.), just walk slowly a bit closer to it. Then you can left-click on things on fire, hold the mouse button and drag the thing to a different position. If you drag it too far away from your figure, it will be thrown there.

To get access to your inventory, either double-click with left mouse button on your figure, then on the backpack on your figure in the stats window that opens, or just press the I button (or was it B?).
One thing to add about the backpack - learn to micromanage it. It is very small and you'll find many things, and all won't fit into the backpack in such manner that you could see them all separately there. So you'll discover that you'll need most of the time to place things in backpack in such a way that you can see the edges, or corners of these things under another things. All you need is just to click on the edge or corner of a thing under another thing, click and drag it to another spot (in or out of backpack), or simply double-click on it to use it (if usable, but most things in Ultima VIII are).

[yoga]

When you move the mouse towards the four edges of the screen, there will be direction arrows pointing at that direction. When you click right mouse button while it's in the position of these direction arrows, and hold it, you begin to walk, or run there as long as the mouse button is held. The further your mouse is to the edge of the screen, the faster you move.
Also the fire will burn you. Not much damage, but it adds up. You don't need to walk into fire to get something out of there (things won't burn in fire, btw.), just walk slowly a bit closer to it. Then you can left-click on things on fire, hold the mouse button and drag the thing to a different position. If you drag it too far away from your figure, it will be thrown there.

To get access to your inventory, either double-click with left mouse button on your figure, then on the backpack on your figure in the stats window that opens, or just press the I button (or was it B?).
One thing to add about the backpack - learn to micromanage it. It is very small and you'll find many things, and all won't fit into the backpack in such manner that you could see them all separately there. So you'll discover that you'll need most of the time to place things in backpack in such a way that you can see the edges, or corners of these things under another things. All you need is just to click on the edge or corner of a thing under another thing, click and drag it to another spot (in or out of backpack), or simply double-click on it to use it (if usable, but most things in Ultima VIII are).
:hihihi:
Master, I think dear twillight problem is that he, after taking the sleep bag failed to move left but goes to fire instead.
Dear twillight, do not afraid carefully to move closer to sea, avoiding this way fire. You may, you very good gamer. Then hit west and voilaaa.
Nice game but stupid yoga can not pass The Pit of Dead.

Nobody help me , nobody like me.
Tears in my heart.

[Scatty]

Nice game but stupid yoga can not pass The Pit of Dead.
That one is a very large, complex area. No possible way to simply guide you through it to the point.
Basically you have to move and move, going and jumping past an area with columns and grid gates on tiny islands between sea of lava, all the time orienting yourself on the south-west direction I think. When you arrive at big ruins with large closed gates at either side, with few skeletons waiting to chop you in pieces, and kind of a hall behind those gates with wooden benches inside, that's where Lithos's heart is located.

[yoga]

That one is a very large, complex area. No possible way to simply guide you through it to the point.
Basically you have to move and move, going and jumping past an area with columns and grid gates on tiny islands between sea of lava, all the time orienting yourself on the south-west direction I think. When you arrive at big ruins with large closed gates at either side, with few skeletons waiting to chop you in pieces, and kind of a hall behind those gates with wooden benches inside, that's where Lithos's heart is located.

:OK:
Dear Master, I did not enter The Pit even.
Before The Pit I realized terrible fact that the magician who play very important role in gaming no more responding, making this way any progress unnecessary.
Something in all my 6 attempts was totally wrong. ?????
Hope you understand my dilemma?
This is the reason to beg for help (let say some save file of this point).
I never forget the help and dully pay for such act.:smile2:
I know YOU understand me very well, do not You?
Really I will never forget the moment when poor yoga is rolled within sphere on the lava field. Nice moment i did many times. ha ha ha
OR Chinese riddle.

Dear twillight I wish YOU luck in this game.
You deserve it. In bad case ask the Master. He know the game very well.

yoga who can not pass the only game in his life - U8P
sob..sob...
After this game I try to have save files of all games passed.

[pantzmaster]

Great game

[pantzmaster]

Oops, double post. Sorry.

[Capo]

Someone know the difference between the basic edition and the gold version of the game ?

[Scatty]

There's a gold version of the game? Maybe it contains the mystical Lost Vale in it :p

[Paco]

Someone know the difference between the basic edition and the gold version of the game ?

The Gold Version has the Speech Pack and Patch included.

[Capo]

Cool, i hope the patch resolves ALL the problems.