Might and Magic 4 and 5 - World Of Xeen

[wendymaree]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review + Download (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/482)

[Guest_Spike]

Yay, i was waiting for this one...

Ive played part 6, and was really surprised what a nice game it was for its age.

So, now i can play part IV and V.... ty :D

[MrBackAlleySka]

Heya guys! I have the World of Xeen manual on a pdf, if you guys'd like it. I'll put it on the FTP site under the MrBackAlleySka folder, and if yeh want it, it's freee to grab and upload to the site, if you don't want it, you are free to delete it ^^ It's 10.something MB's

[parska]

Originally posted by Guest_Spike@Apr 27 2005, 04:54 PM
Yay, i was waiting for this one...

Ive played part 6, and was really surprised what a nice game it was for its age.

So, now i can play part IV and V.... ty :D
i think part 6 is best in the series :ok:

:kosta: Thanks abandonia! :kosta:

[BLOODUK]

Thanks ill give this a go later ;)

[wendymaree]

Originally posted by MrBackAlleySka@Apr 27 2005, 05:22 PM
Heya guys! I have the World of Xeen manual on a pdf, if you guys'd like it. I'll put it on the FTP site under the MrBackAlleySka folder, and if yeh want it, it's freee to grab and upload to the site, if you don't want it, you are free to delete it ^^ It's 10.something MB's
Thanks for the offer, but I had some trouble uploading a copy of the manual, so Kosta is uploading it a little later...when he can.

Enjoy the game!

[chickenman]

Looks good from the screen shot's ill download it later :w00t:

[bahman]

Well this is one of the best game I have never played...

[DiamondSoul]

Great game, I highly recommend!

[MrBackAlleySka]

Hm, it might just be me, but it seems to lock up on both intro screens. The game plays just fine otherwise, and it's no biggie. But both intros freeze in VDMSound, and DOSbox. The music continues, but animation stops on "Dark Side" and on the "Clouds" intro, the animation keeps going, as if it's waiting for something, butesc. ends it, and it just sits there doing nothing. As I said, no biggie, but does anyone else get that?

[Chris]

Wheee...! World of Xeen has finally arrived! To me this was one of the best RPG's ever made. And these (parts 4 and 5 in combination) are the best parts of the whole series! I would recommend everyone to stay on the "light" side for some time, however. The dark side is much more challenging and very lethal for lower class characters. Highly recommended! :ok:

[Black Mage]

MrBackAlleySka - maybe its because of the sound driver you chose, for example, when i choose Roland it freezed inside the game, and had several crashes, so unfortunatlly, i had to use soundblaster and enjoy the great music in SB quallity.

about the pdf, i have already uploaded one, and its probably the same, so if you didnt upload yet. dont bother, i can speak for the site so its from myself, thanx for trying to help with the manual anyway

Some Tips: When you will be able to cast day of protection and day of sorcery, do so,
Its the most important spells in the game

If you want to change your party dont hesitate to pick any class and race you want, all is good! for example, i didnt have a Sorcerer in my party, my archer played a sorcerer,
and what an amzing party i had!, but dont take it to far, you need a spell caster for sorcerer spell, and its highly recomended to have a cleric, or at least a druid. (Im not sure if a druid has Divine intervetion, that is a life saver spell and it is wery important, espetially if you want to finish WOX).

[Guest_Songnar]

Definately the BEST in the series, it'll keep you busy for months...even if you cheat!

[rabadi]

Okay, fist thing first before I decide whether to download or not, is the combat system real time or turn-based? If it is real time, I'll most likely download it. If it is turn-based on the other hand, I think I'll probably pass this one 'cause I play so horribly with turn-based.

EDIT: I did a quick check on Quandary and found their review of the game here: http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=239. Yep, it is turn-based so it may not be my cup of tea, but I figure, what the heck, I'll probably download it anyway for the sake of collecting instead of for the sake of playing.

[TheChosen]

Finally! Ive been looking for this game! Thanks!

By the way...should i upload Might and magic 3?

[gregor]

is the combat similar like in Ultima underworld? or more like in Eye of beholder?

[trisha_x]

it's like wizardry, turn based..

i played world of xeen many many years ago, anyone knows how to beat the dragon (i don't know what it was named, it nearly instantly kills your characters and makes them unreviable) in the clouds? you have to cast flying to get there and it guards a trap-door..

[Mihey]

Oooh! I LOVE you guys!

Excuse me, I've got to play this goldie once again. :w00t:

trisha_x: when you cannot beat it... try later. And get high resistance against its attacks (electrical? I dunno). But most likely you will have to get a few more levels on your side :P

[BLOODUK]

Game loads fine... plays fine. But as soon as i Hit the ESC icon
after talking to anybody it just freezes. First time was in the ironworks
then the adventure training :(

[Vitas]

Wow, I've played M&M VI a couple of times and some of my friends told me that the World of Xeen is actually even better... and now here it is, I can test it myself... thanks:)

[ManInTheBox]

:bleh: COOL! The old mightnmagics are so amazing!
thx abandonia! ive played 5 6 7 8 9 but i think the older the better!
i hope itll run on my pc.

Besides: why does everybody hate turnbased games ?
often theyre the better ones!
tztztz :hairpull:

[guest_Janko]

Originally posted by BLOODUK@Apr 28 2005, 11:27 AM
Game loads fine... plays fine. But as soon as i Hit the ESC icon
after talking to anybody it just freezes. First time was in the ironworks
then the adventure training :(

i had the same problem with my 386 (7 years ago)
The reason were wrong sound settings

[Guest_captivus]

I don't suppose you know where else to get the manual? I can't open pdf files (don't know why) and I'm stuck when I try to leave the city ....

[another_guest]

You can download Acrobat Reader for free at http://www.adobe.nl/products/acrobat/readstep2.html

This will allow you to read pdf's, and there's no time limit to the program's use or something.

[Lord_Onyxx]

Originally posted by guest_Janko+Apr 28 2005, 01:41 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (guest_Janko @ Apr 28 2005, 01:41 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>******QuoteBegin-BLOODUK@Apr 28 2005, 11:27 AM
Game loads fine... plays fine. But as soon as i Hit the ESC icon
after talking to anybody it just freezes. First time was in the ironworks
then the adventure training :(

i had the same problem with my 386 (7 years ago)
The reason were wrong sound settings[/b][/quote]
Incorrect sound settings or sound drivers is probably the #1 issue when it comes to playing these classic DOS games. In 1995-1997 I worked tech support and game testing for a large gaming company in Austin. The first thing we would do is attempt the no sound option in the game to see if the problem goes away.

If you ever have lockup issues in games run setup and try no sound.

BTW - great site! I've found many classics that I've added back to my library because many of my old floppies are no longer good.

LO

[BLOODUK]

Ok cool ill try no sound, thanks guys


edit : soundblaster voices are crashing the game, but music works so turned of soundblaster and turned ON soundblaster PRO for voices and works now... thanks guys ;)

[Pot&#036;]

I love this game, been trying to get it to run forever. Heres to hopen it works :cheers:

[RituroErganesti]

Awesome find!! I picked up MMIV, V, VI and VII in a compilation pack years ago and, without question, World of Xeen is hands down the better experience. I can't express how much fun anyone who downloads this will have, especially once they take their team over to the Dark Side of Xeen... beware of Barkman!! :Titan:

[Spoonman]

I'm not a rpg fan, but if this game is as bright, huge and colourful as it looks then no doubt I'll be enjoying myself for a long time :)

[Pain~less]

Great game, thanks for uploading. :ok:

I'm using XP, but the game runs fine as long as i turn the speech off and set music&effects to soundblaster pro. However, if i buy a drink in the tavern and then press "tips", the game freezes. Only issue so far.

[win98]

this games good but for windows i have might and magic 9 or some thing it has good graphics (like world of xeen) but i prefure my version

[Guest_IronShemp]

OH MAN! Big thanks for this game!
I loved it back in the day.

For it's time it not only had outstanding graphics but a great plot.
I have an old system that I keep just so I can play these older games.

Wow.
I can't wait to play this again.
:ok:

[Mad-E-Fact]

Glad it has been put up. :ok:

One thing I wonder about: This version is, as far as I know, joined from the stand-alone games IV & V. I read however, that World of Xeen has been re-released as a bundle about a year later and contains some extras, like extra speech. Can someone confirm that, and how much has been added? Is it worth to track it down?

[Guest]

this game is really one of the best rpg's ever.

but by the way has any1 the other parts of M&M and could upload them?

greetings

[TimG]

Thankyou SO SO Much for this! I loved this game! Thanks!!!

[vfrey]

I've read somewhere about a game called "Sword of Xeen" - I suppose it's not the same as "World of Xeen", is it ? :blink:

[Black Mage]

I havent heard that world of xeen had another version, its possible but i think it doest change a lot.

i know MM3 has two versions and im trying to get a hold of the second because it doeest have the brother quest bug.

swords of xeen is a massive expantion to MM5 it makes a huge world that is about the size of world of xeen.

i will upload Swords, MM2 and MM1 soon with a review.
when ill find MM3 second version ill upload it too.

[vfrey]

Originally posted by Black Mage@Apr 29 2005, 04:47 PM
i will upload Swords, MM2 and MM1 soon with a review.
when ill find MM3 second version ill upload it too.
great :ok:

[Guest_Baron von Awesome]

This game rocks, but I'm having some trouble matching the manual and the words required to enter some areas, do you need the manual from the seperate game, Clouds of Xeen or what, because I cant seem to get it to work with the manual posted on the site

[Black Mage]

if you operate the game trough the file go.bat, you wont need to mach, just write something, and the game will accept it.

[Ashes]

Smae problem here. And I tried checking if it was by the page numbers on the pages themselves, if it was by actual page number (picture and intro pages counted also), if maybe the blank lines between text lines were counted, and even typing some random answers in. None of the methods worked. So I can't leave the initial city. Tho I admit I haven't tried pure dos mode yet. (I've got a w98SE/Dos dual boot at 200MHz for old games)

[Black Mage]

Ashes -
did you check my reply? i said (in a message above yours)

if you operate the game trough the file go.bat, you wont need to mach, just write something, and the game will accept it.

[blacky]

or try the game with the dosbox. i use it and it works !

[Jenkins]

Here's a tip

If you make your characters in Vertigo ( or anywhere in Clouds of Xeen), they start at level 1
But if you make them in Castleview ( or wherever you want in Darkside), they start
at level 5.

BTW, if you drink fountains in a certain order, you might gain benefit from all the fountains that gives you permanent bonus ( elements or charactéristics ). I remember that if you mess up by drinking the fountains, most of them won't give any permanent bonus. I'll check my notes just to make sure I didn't made any mistake for the fountains.

[Ashes]

My computer is to slow to handle DosBox, and since it is a win98 machine, with a separate dos install for pure dos mode, I should be able to do it without DosBox.

Also, I have tried all the combinations I could think of starting with go.bat, starting with xeen.com, starting with xeen.exe, starting with xee.exe, running it from dos so I could type in the sequence of commands that were in go.bat without actually running it, and running mm5crack.com before doing anything else.

And in each of those different startups, I ran through the complete sequence of password attempts listed earlier. And I did the whole sequence three times through just to be sure I had tried every combination. I have tried to do this as thoroughly as I could so my results would be helpful, but as I haven't gotten anything other than the knowledge that the crack doesn't seem to work on my computer, I'll give it's specs instead.

pentium 200MHz, 160MB ram, 20GB hdd split into 1.99GB dos partition and 16.6GB windows partion (since they always overstate the actual drive size), LS120 laser floppy (120 3.5" floppy drive that is hardware driven instead of software and completely reverse compatible all the way to pure dos mode and can use regular 3.5" floppies also), 52speed CDRom drive, 8MB legacy 2d video card, legacy sound card simulator card (newer tho still legacy but simulates 5 older legacy cards), 10/100 network lan card, and 56k modem.
And I dos is my prefered OS when working on my computer, as it's the one I know the most about with win98se coming in a distant second, so this is unusual for me.

[Sheltem]

Yeah...i love this Game...
I think M&M IV and V, btw World of Xeen is the best Game i have played in this Time.

:D

See u in Neocron...

[HellsBells]

This is a great game but I'm completely stuck. :-(
I can't figure out how to get the key from the Golom dungon(sp?)
I've tried every combonation with the levers in the 'Home of Iron' that I can think of but still no key. :(
And where is Crodo?
The elf holy book? ......ugh I'm so lost LOL.

[Black Mage]

Ashes thats strange i i put in the crack and it made no problems, any way if you have emule i can just give you a link to mm4 manual..

about the golem dangeon,in the wood you have to use some magic to pull the lever and get out (ill let you guess by yourself what spell it would be)

in the iron just try some combinations until you will get the result the statue asked (notice the statue dident ask all the rocks to be released)

and in the diamond just pull the levers randomly untill you make a clear path to head on..

hope my advice will help..

[Mattitude]

Originally posted by Black Mage@Apr 29 2005, 04:47 PM


i will upload Swords, MM2 and MM1 soon with a review.
when ill find MM3 second version ill upload it too.
You are my new favourite person.. ever, I'm half way through Might and Magic 7 when I decided to come back to the site to see if they had anything good and I see World of Xeen... WOO!

and the news of the rest being uploaded?

Better than an orgasm

[Guest_guest]

if anyone has still problems with the crack-> There are all keywords:
http://www.hqscansorg.org/

[Buwwelknurps]

you should, defintily.. an M&M 6 too.. my favorit.

[Guest]

whats the differnce between game type adventurer and warrior??

[vfrey]

the number of hostile creatures you encounter makes the difference... :Titan:

[Kalgalath]

(in response to an earlier post)

Only way I've ever been able to kill the mega dragon above the trap door on the cloud road was to start a 2 or 3 person party (instead of the normal 6 person one). That way by the time I've done most of the areas in the game, my characters would be at least level 200, with all obsidian equipment, more attacks, more spellpoints, instead of about 120 or so with a mix of equipment. Still a really gruesome fight though. Absolutely the hardest fight in the game by far... Have to put a lot of $ in the bank and rest a lot for interest to accumulate in order to afford that many levels...

Best thing about it is, megadragon is still there even after you beat the darkside. So there's always a really tough enemy available.

[Ramidel]

Is there a way to give items from one character to another?

[Mad-E-Fact]

Originally posted by Ramidel@May 5 2005, 02:48 AM
Is there a way to give items from one character to another?
Mark the item with the LMB then right-click the portrait of the partymember you want it traded to.

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Guest_guest@May 3 2005, 07:05 AM
if anyone has still problems with the crack-> There are all keywords:
http://www.hqscansorg.org/
For some reason, that file won't load.

[Kalgalath]

I think sword of xeen is much smaller than world of xeen. Three towns was it? but more spread apart? Remember it being really hard though.

[Pierceval]

Helloooooooooooooooo,

Might & Magic : World Of Xeen is the best game of the whole saga (only Might & Magic III : Isles Of Terra is nearly as good). I played MM6 & MM7 : not bad but they lost the humour and the colourfull graphics of WOX.

They are 4 different versions of World Of Xeen :

- World of Xeen - floppy edition - no speech
- World Of Xeen - CD edition - speech & sound blaster 16+waveblaster support
- World Of Xeen - CD edition from Interplay RPG Compilation
- World Of Xeen - CD edition from Might & Magic Millennium Collection

It seems the last one has some issues running under DosBOX. Otherwise the other versions runs fine on a Pentium IV - 2.0 Ghz under DosBOX with full music, sound effects & speech.

I really hoped when they released MM6 it would be as good as WOX but I was greatly disappointed. Too serious. Bad choice of colours.

[Elward]

I have a PDF of keywards for MM3-5. Also, I run XP and can run Xeen with sounds and voices but no music; however, I can run it through DOSBox at a snail's pace with music. Can I get speed and music, and, if so, how?

-EE

[Liquid]

Hi all
I'm impressed by the site, you guys rock. I can't believe ya got World of Xeen, even with some voices, thats great.

I have a little question, rather stupid, how do you save the game? :crazy:

[vfrey]

at the bottom of the main screen there's a purple (?) icon (like a jewel or so). If you click on it, you're in the options menu.

[Frank]

Originally posted by vfrey@Apr 29 2005, 04:04 PM
I've read somewhere about a game called "Sword of Xeen" - I suppose it's not the same as "World of Xeen", is it ? :blink:
Sowords of Xeen is M&M3 I think

[Mad-E-Fact]

Originally posted by Frank@May 17 2005, 12:07 PM
Sowords of Xeen is M&M3 I think
No, M&M3 is called Isles of Terra. I think Swords of Xeen is a fan-made addon, judging by the quality of it and the amount of reused graphics, I at least had that impression. Black Mage, correct me there if I'm wrong.

[Borodin]

The Web is our friend. :D I got this off a website devoted to the Xeen titles:

"Worlds of Xeen is essentially one game, but due to some arcane marketing or production deadline issue, it was originally released in two parts: Clouds of Xeen and Darkside of Xeen. There was also a short add-on released later called Swords of Xeen. Today, all three of these games come bundled together and are installed simultaneously, so you can access all the areas in the game just as soon as your party can physically reach them."

So Swords of Xeen appears to have been a legit add-on from New World Computing, the original developers and publishers. Never heard of it before, myself.

[Morning Glass]

Hello, I've almost finished clouds. There's some things I still don't know how to do.. maybe someone can help.

-can't enter the tower where there's snow, the 2nd one west of newcastle.
-can't enter the tower in the lava lake.
-can't enter the southern sphinx
-can't enter the 2nd temple, north of temple of yak.
-unable to set the dials correctly in nightshadow.

Also, id like to know if it was possible to save the mirror after killing lord xeen.

Hope anyone can help..

[Frank]

Originally posted by Borodin@May 17 2005, 03:56 PM
The Web is our friend. :D I got this off a website devoted to the Xeen titles:

"Worlds of Xeen is essentially one game, but due to some arcane marketing or production deadline issue, it was originally released in two parts: Clouds of Xeen and Darkside of Xeen. There was also a short add-on released later called Swords of Xeen. Today, all three of these games come bundled together and are installed simultaneously, so you can access all the areas in the game just as soon as your party can physically reach them."

So Swords of Xeen appears to have been a legit add-on from New World Computing, the original developers and publishers. Never heard of it before, myself.
Nope, I read on some other website that it is a fanmade addon, the fans did ask the devs of the original for allowance to use the original textures and graphics etc to create a new game, so they made this one, at least that's what I've read.

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Frank+May 17 2005, 05:58 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Frank @ May 17 2005, 05:58 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Borodin@May 17 2005, 03:56 PM

Nope, I read on some other website that it is a fanmade addon, the fans did ask the devs of the original for allowance to use the original textures and graphics etc to create a new game, so they made this one, at least that's what I've read.

[/b][/quote]
So we have Dueling Websites. In any case, could we get an upload of Swords of Xeen?

[Kalgalath]

Umm... Swords of Xeen is a seperate game. Much harder than world of xeen but a lot shorter and is not Isles of Terra. This game was made in 1996 or around there.

There were 3 real towns I believe... Hart, Sandtown and Impery. The game takes place in the world of Havec. It was obviously a beta though as some quests were unsolvable. All the pyramids (the ones you can transfer b/t worlds in world of xeen) were broken. There was a sky platform also, a large desert with talking rocks, an underworld that was just 1 map screen, a fire area w/ a spaceship but no castle like in worlds... and armadillos.

Man I hate those guys...

[HELLCHILD]

THANK`S ABANDONIA!THE GAME WORKS FINE WITH DOSBOX (NO SOUND). I AM STILL AT THE BEGINNING OF THE GAME, BUT SO FAR I AM HAVING FUN. I EAVEN PUT THE GAME AND DOSBOX ON MOBILE DISK (TWIN MOS) THAT I CAN PLAY THE GAME AT WORK AT THE NIGHTSHIFT.TO BE AT A AIRPORT UNTIL MIDNIGHT THAT SUCKS (SPECIALY WHEN IT IS NOT WEEKEND), BUT NOW I CAN KILL SOME ORKS AND MAD DWARFS,SO THANK´S ONCE AGAIN ABANDONIA TO MAKE MY NIGTSHIFTS MORE INTERISTING. :Titan:
BY THE WAY, I RETURNED THE WHISTLE(WHICH I FOUND IN THE FOREST FULL OF UNDEAD) TO THE NPC SOUTH OF VERTIGO (ON A SMALL ISLAND, USE THE JUMP SPELL), HE TOLKED ABAUT STATUES THAT CAN TEACH CURE POISEN, BUT I NEVER FOUND THE STATUES?
THE MAD DWARF KING (IN THE RED DWARFE RANGE MINES) IS A PAIN IN behind, BUT SLEEP AND AWAKE SPELLS HELPED.

[N0mercy]

Hi guys

I am realy a Fan of this game but i cant Download it :( whats the prob error message could not find on server help me pls.

THX anyway

[BeefontheBone]

You seem to be correct there. I'll PM an admin.

Hellchild, please TURN OFF CAPSLOCK. A MESSAGE ALL IN CAPS IS VERY UNPLEASANT TO READ!

Edit: The filename differed from what it was supposed to be. It's been fixed now.

[Mournin Coffee]

No one else has really reported problems.. but for me the downloadable PDF with the manual doesn't seem to correspond with the game. I've tried for a long while to try to get the proper password from the manual's text but.. it never seems to work.

[BJ]

Originally posted by Mournin Coffee@Jun 4 2005, 03:44 AM
No one else has really reported problems.. but for me the downloadable PDF with the manual doesn't seem to correspond with the game. I've tried for a long while to try to get the proper password from the manual's text but.. it never seems to work.
Hi.. I can't get the right pasword from the manual too.. Can somebody explain to me in non computer terms what I can do?

Thanks

[MasterGrazzt]

Originally posted by Guest@May 3 2005, 05:53 PM
whats the differnce between game type adventurer and warrior??
Warrior just has more combat, that's all.

[MechAssassin]

I've been attempting to run the game with VDSM sound. Intro plays fine, however, if I escape past it, or let it finish, the game changes to a black screen. I can hear the music playing in the background but nothing happens. Just a blank screen. Any suggestions?

[rico balboa]

This game is way cool !!!!! I played it when it was released (part 4 that is) and then again 6 years later. I could'nt play it when i went to Windows XP but now, thanx to the wonderful DOS BOX I can play it a third time. I still love it § Thank you very much Abandonia. And thank you guys who still go to hell and back to play thos old Dos games, deliberatly living in the past, but making me feel less of a freak. Bye !!

[Guest_Barry]

To address the intro freeze, escape freeze problem mention in the previous msg.
Please have a try running the install.exe from DOSBOX, then hit 'Y' to save setting.
This will save the sound and directory settings and generate a config file, after that the game should run as normal (atleast for me).

Just an ingame question for the experts who have completed the game, in Castleview Ellinger's Tower Lever 1, there is no way to get to the top half of the section, but it existed (use wizard eye). Anyone out there knows the way to get into that section?
I've try using Jump and Teleport with no luck.

[Negative Creep]

This is one nice game... I love Might & Magic 6... but that is beside the point, can you upload the first three, the console versions aren't very good, but the PC ones are pretty cool, also Darkside Of Xeen and Clouds Of Xeen on they're own would be good as well. Thanks.

[Lonely Vazdru]

This game (or these games ?) is a killer. More than 10 years after its release it still kicks some mean behind. Let the warrior in you get his fill. Play it !!!
:Titan:

Just a personal note : the word i used in my post was not behind, but some big brother politically correct entity changed it. That sucks, but the site is so cool I won't make a fuss about it. No hard feelings. :sniper:

[Guest_eolsunder]

MMm ellingers tower. I believe once you enter the tower there is a mirror that asks you a question, something about "your lord told you to kill a barbarian bandit, you fought him he dropped his sword, do you wait for him to pick it up, or slay him, etc"

Answering different gets you into other sections. I answered slay him and got into the top section, probably answering "let him pick up his sword" gets you into the south section. Im guessing you can only do either or, not both.

World of Xeen is 2 parts, actually

Might and magic 4, clouds of xeen and
Might and magic 5, darkside of xeen


The only problems in the game are what some other poster said, going into TIPS in a bar will crash the game. Also I ran into only 1 other crash, when I was in darkside, journed/recalled to a place in clouds, then town portaled to rivercity, i crashed.

Also, a bug in the game, any item other than armor that is made up of material (like medals, amulets) does not give AC bonus's, thus are worthless to wear.

Example. A Obsidian medal. Obsidian on armor gives +20 ac, obsidian on a medal gives... nothing. Thus a steel medal and a obsidian medal both do absolutely nothing. I found this out sadly half way through the game.


I LOVE THIS GAME! LOL man Might and magic was one of my early all time favorite RPG games, now i get to play it again.

[mupton]

Thank you for uploading this wonderful game. It was really the game that got me into the rpg genre. BTW, if anyone knows the password to the console on the bottom level of the dungeon of death, please post it. Also I never figured out what the traders were transporting between the elements on the skyway. I think those are the only puzzles I never solved.

Here are a few tips for anyone newer to the game.

Archers and paladins are just as effective as their sorcerer and cleric counterparts, just with half the spell points, but they are much better fighters.

Age permanently affects attributes, so use wells and spells to restore health and sp instead of resting whenever possible. Your autonotes records every fountain you come across with the attribute it enhances.

Druids are nearly worthless imho. Choose a class that can cast the better spells. Rangers are fine if you need a jack-of-all-trades though.

Beware of sky golems. I used to have nightmares about them untill I was a higher level.

Thanks again for this great game. :Brain:

[Overwhelming]

Hi! I'm having problems to play this game. When I talk to someone, when I press the button to go back to game, the game freezes. Anyone has/had this problem? Solutions anyone?

[Lonely Vazdru]

Originally posted by Overwhelming@Jul 10 2005, 01:20 AM
Hi! I'm having problems to play this game. When I talk to someone, when I press the button to go back to game, the game freezes. Anyone has/had this problem? Solutions anyone?
Yeah. If you're using DosBox, you should try different settings for sound effects and music (like two different sound cards). It worked for me after a little fumbling.
:huh:

[Overwhelming]

Originally posted by Lonely Vazdru+Jul 10 2005, 11:08 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lonely Vazdru @ Jul 10 2005, 11:08 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Overwhelming@Jul 10 2005, 01:20 AM
Hi! I'm having problems to play this game. When I talk to someone, when I press the button to go back to game, the game freezes. Anyone has/had this problem? Solutions anyone?
Yeah. If you're using DosBox, you should try different settings for sound effects and music (like two different sound cards). It worked for me after a little fumbling.
:huh: [/b][/quote]
Thanks, that solved the problem. :)


BTW, i've solved the first quest, and have about 6000 experience points. In my stats, it says I'm eligible (to level up). How do I level up?

[Lonely Vazdru]

Originally posted by Overwhelming@Jul 10 2005, 04:51 PM
How do I level up?
In every town you can find training grounds (just like there are taverns and shops and guilds) where you can level up for money (and time, each stay in the training grounds lasts one week). Be aware though, that each town can only raise you to a max level. In the first town it's level 10. So you have to find new towns as you progress, otherwise you can't level up anymore.

[Bobbin Threadbare]

This system is a lot like Pokémon (the Gameboy game). At the start your Pokémon can only get to level 20. If they get higher, they disobey you. This is why you should have multippple Pokémon at your side instad of the one. To let them grow igher you must get Gym badges, in each city until you have eight. Once you have them all Pokémon up to level 500 will obey you. Even though it only goes up to 200.

[Omuletzu]

I finished all the dwarven mine levels(1-5), and i found the word that probably leads to the dwarven king.But the cart won't move
The word i found was aipha.
Could you guys tell me what word have you used to reach him?

[Overwhelming]

Originally posted by Lonely Vazdru+Jul 11 2005, 05:23 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Lonely Vazdru @ Jul 11 2005, 05:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Overwhelming@Jul 10 2005, 04:51 PM
How do I level up?
In every town you can find training grounds (just like there are taverns and shops and guilds) where you can level up for money (and time, each stay in the training grounds lasts one week). Be aware though, that each town can only raise you to a max level. In the first town it's level 10. So you have to find new towns as you progress, otherwise you can't level up anymore. [/b][/quote]
Thanks! :ok:

[Lonely Vazdru]

Originally posted by Omuletzu@Jul 11 2005, 01:27 PM
The word i found was aipha.
Could you guys tell me what word have you used to reach him?
Alpha. :bye:

[Omuletzu]

LOL, ok thanks :)

[Omuletzu]

Originally posted by Morning Glass@May 17 2005, 07:21 PM
-unable to set the dials correctly in nightshadow.

yes i also want to know how to lure the bat master out of his grave(i.e. how to arrange the sun dials)


PS Sorry for the double post but it's the first time i play this gem :angel:

[Borodin]

What's the big deal? The answer is given to you directly in the game: set all the dials to 9, and click on the coffin after dark.

[Omuletzu]

Yeah i found out, but not in-game.There are two tombstones which hold clues:
One that says something like '' at night there are many foes to fight '', and one that says '' cat lives ''.I figured out on my own that one of the dials had to be set to 9, but i didn't knew how to set the others.And besides there was a tombstone which said '' stitched live '' i think.I didn't knew what that meant.

[Borodin]

Perhaps your version has different hints than mine--I played it quite a while ago, when it first came out. You were actually told to set all the dials to 9.

[DDarkDuck]

Okay guys, I could'nt get the codes from the manual to work.
I also read about using the GO but it did'nt work either. Can someone post the
names of towns close by so I can warp out? maybe that will bypass the leaving town questions. Please help. I loved this game when I bought it in 97, and I still love it. Unfortunately I never got the chance to finish it and I would really like to.
Thnx again for the game.

[Omuletzu]

http://xs37.xs.to/pics/05285/key.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs37&d=05285&f=key.jpg)

[Some Random Passerbys]

Originally posted by mupton@Jul 6 2005, 09:58 PM


Here are a few tips for anyone newer to the game.

Archers and paladins are just as effective as their sorcerer and cleric counterparts, just with half the spell points, but they are much better fighters.

Age permanently affects attributes, so use wells and spells to restore health and sp instead of resting whenever possible. Your autonotes records every fountain you come across with the attribute it enhances.

Druids are nearly worthless imho. Choose a class that can cast the better spells. Rangers are fine if you need a jack-of-all-trades though.

Thanks again for this great game. :Brain:
The secondary spellcasters (Paladin, Archer, Ranger) also pay extra to learn their spells. If you intend to use them for spell-combat, their relative lack of magic points can quickly become a very limiting factor- the best spells are, of course, very expensive to cast, and some of them have their casting cost and power based on the caster's level; those spells could very rapidly outstrip the meager allotment of a secondary caster. I would recommend taking along a Ranger; they're pretty good fighters, and the Ranger/Druid group has a couple of unique spells that can make life a lot easier (The one that sticks out in my mind is Water Walk- I've played Isles of Terra a lot more recently than World, tho, and Water Walk is practically required in Isles.) In a normal six-person group, I'd take along at least a Paladin, Cleric, and Ranger; although you can get by without the Sorcerer spell group if you really want to (try it for a challenge sometime. Me, I wouldn't want to have to get by without Wizard Eye and Teleport.), healing magic is completely necessary, and this gives a pretty good supply of both healing spells (2 people who can cast the full supply, and one who can wake up the other two if they get knocked out) and fighting ability.

About age: The game shouldn't last long enough for normal aging to cripple your characters. However, some monsters have the ability to age your party. Mostly undead. If you suspect you're facing these monsters, save. Save a lot. I don't remember if World offers anything like Isle's Fountain of Youth; if it does, you can afford to be a little more aggressive, since that will remove any monster-induced aging. If it doesn't, treat age-making monsters like they're instant killers; if your characters get stuck with an additional 300 years distributed throughout the party, they'll be pretty well useless.

[Guest]

Okay, I'm having some rather strange problems getting this to run in XP. With VMDSound the game works through the intro, but freezes afterwards or if I press Esc. I tried turning off the sounds, but that didn't help. And DosBox won't any of the .exe's. When I tried running xeen.exe, I got a simple, inconclusive error message: "Failed". Any advice?

[dexter047]

i played this game years ago at a friends house. we used to stay up playing this all night. so happy to find it. :D i was searching the internet for it when i found this great site. ive been looking for this game for like 3 years now. so happy. :D

[gertlex]

Originally posted by dexter047@Aug 2 2005, 02:24 AM
i played this game years ago at a friends house. we used to stay up playing this all night. so happy to find it. :D i was searching the internet for it when i found this great site. ive been looking for this game for like 3 years now. so happy. :D
My story is very similar to that :)

Played it at a friend's house years ago... we played it together actually, one guy move's the other clicks or something, and talk our way through. Either Xeen or Loderunner have to be the first real computer game worth mentioning that I ever played.

I randomly searched for the game and Google + Abandonia = heavenly gift!

Now to complete this wiht the remainder of my summer (i've beaten 7 and 8... 9 was so boring somehow)

[The Deceiver]

Originally posted by gertlex+Aug 6 2005, 04:14 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (gertlex @ Aug 6 2005, 04:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-dexter047@Aug 2 2005, 02:24 AM
i played this game years ago at a friends house. we used to stay up playing this all night. so happy to find it. :D* i was searching the internet for it when i found this great site. ive been looking for this game for like 3 years now. so happy. :D
My story is very similar to that :)

Played it at a friend's house years ago... we played it together actually, one guy move's the other clicks or something, and talk our way through. Either Xeen or Loderunner have to be the first real computer game worth mentioning that I ever played.

I randomly searched for the game and Google + Abandonia = heavenly gift!

Now to complete this wiht the remainder of my summer (i've beaten 7 and 8... 9 was so boring somehow) [/b][/quote]
Decided to post here, eh? Nword. :bleh:

x_X Yep, one guy moves, other guy clicks. That's how it's was, is, and always shall be. And yep, Might and Magic 9 is really boring for some reason. Glad someone got this game uploaded here, as I never finished it.

--> :ot: <--

[random]

if it hasn't been mentioned elsewhere:

To come out of Castleview without having to answer the questions you just have to go through the sewers ... I got it with some kind of game magazine and just went though the sewers, until I got Portal that is.

[Yet another guest]

Just to send out a big thanks to Omuletzu, that jpeg was a life saver, the otehr stuff wasn't working. ;)

[guenthar]

How do you catch the chest in Castleview? It's been so long since I've played this game that I don't remember.

PS. Swords of Xeen is a fasn made game based on Darkside of Xeen. When I bought the Might and Magic compiliation years ago it came with Swords of Xeen and in the documentation it said that Swords of Xeen is a fan made game. I don't think it was ever finished though. (If I remember right)

[Old School Gamer]

The World Of XEEN is a Great Game.....considering how long ago it came out. It's sad that 3DO went belly up. I loved all the Might & Magic series. :cry:

Thank You.

[Borodin]

It wasn't 3DO that made the World of Xeen. It was New World Computing. Jon van Caneghem, the CEO of New World Computing, sold the company to 3DO in order to secure more funding to increase the size and complexity of his titles--a deal with the devil, such as Garriott foolishly made with Electronic Arts. The head of 3DO unwisely took the Might and Magic series away from the NWC team after the eighth game had mediocre sales, and gave the ninth to a completely untried team that had never released any games, before. M&M9 was a bomb, and deservedly so. From everything I've heard, Trip Hawkins (3DO's CEO) was a person who could never trust anybody to do anything; he had to make all the decisions, and only he knew what games people would buy. In the end, it appears that people weren't interested in the games Hawkins wanted to make.

[Old School Gamer]

Thanks for the info. and the correction. :bleh:
I still loved all the M&M series.

[Pierceval]

While talking of Richard Garriott (a god .... that man made the best games ever - I speak of course about Ultima 7 and Serpent Isle) and John Van Caneghem (a mighty god too...) you should read an article about them here :

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...410/ai_n7180539 (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdcgw/is_200410/ai_n7180539)

they now work together @ NCSoft

[Rorschach]

Erm... am I the only one who's stuck at the very ending of the game, unable to answer the elemental guardians in the cloud world? I've done all the other requirements to complete the 3rd and final quest, but I can't seem to find a clue to the answer anywhere in the game, and even in the walkthroughs available over the net (which mostly are the same one copied over and over) it isn't mentioned, as if the awakening the guardians thing didn't involve a riddle.

Also, my 2 cents about the game: even though I enjoyed the game imensely (I hadn't played it before now, and spent many days doing so), I felt there was a weakness in the rythm of the game that spoiled it a bit. With all the XP being thrown around (500k experience being given as if it was going out of style, and all the +3/+5 permanent level gains), I found that killing all but the toughest monsters quickly became a matter of unworriedly clicking away at the mouse. Maybe that's just me, cause I went around a lot doing all the side quests trying to advance in the main plot, but I reckon that's not somthing uncommon if you are not playing with a WT, right?

Also, that damn 3rd quest about uniting the worlds feels hugely like something that was thrown in the game afterwards, it felt very anti-climatic, didn't it? After you've killed pretty much everything that breathes on both sides of xeen, you go make a few quite automatic errants (except for that damn elements riddle...) and then it's done. Felt like the developers felt the need to throw in something extra for the reissue, and quickly slapped together just anything they came up with in a hurry.

One other minor point that did't seem to get balanced right was the ratio between XP and money: what's the point in dumping all those XP on you without enough money to train? I raided all the dragon hoards I could and so on, was quite a scrooge at the shop, and still finished penyless with "eligible" status fo training (at around 105th level overall).

[Lonely Vazdru]

Originally posted by Rorschach@Aug 23 2005, 04:57 AM
One other minor point that did't seem to get balanced right was the ratio between XP and money: what's the point in dumping all those XP on you without enough money to train? I raided all the dragon hoards I could and so on, was quite a scrooge at the shop, and still finished penyless with "eligible" status fo training (at around 105th level overall).
That's what happened to me too, when i first played it. Now i put all my money in the bank (interests make it grow pretty steadily) and hope to overcome that problem. As for the elemental riddle, can't help you there. I know it can be done because i finished the game 6 or 7 years ago but i don't remember how. :blink:

[Seraphon]

Originally posted by Rorschach@Aug 23 2005, 04:57 AM
Erm... am I the only one who's stuck at the very ending of the game, unable to answer the elemental guardians in the cloud world? I've done all the other requirements to complete the 3rd and final quest, but I can't seem to find a clue to the answer anywhere in the game, and even in the walkthroughs available over the net (which mostly are the same one copied over and over) it isn't mentioned, as if the awakening the guardians thing didn't involve a riddle.
*Possible spoiler*





I don't remember the guardians needing you to answer a riddle. It has been a while since I played this game, but are you talking about the 'Merchants of the Elements' on one of the cloud roads, or the 'Element Sleepers', which require you to fall through holes in one of the cloud roads. (I'm not sure which world these are in, Clouds or Darkside)
The Element Sleepers are the ones you need to talk to, and you just need to speak to them to awaken them.
If you want to know the answers to the merchants' riddles,

Between Fire and Air - Smoke
Between Air and Earth - Dust
Between Earth and Water - Mud
Between Water and Fire - Steam

-Seraphon

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Pierceval@Aug 22 2005, 08:58 PM
While talking of Richard Garriott (a god .... that man made the best games ever - I speak of course about Ultima 7 and Serpent Isle) and John Van Caneghem (a mighty god too...) you should read an article about them here :

http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_...410/ai_n7180539 (http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_zdcgw/is_200410/ai_n7180539)

they now work together @ NCSoft
Old news. What's saddest, and not mentioned in the small piece, is that Garriott and van Caneghem are just rehashing the same kind of MMORPG fare that's already around elsewhere, these days, via NCSoft. I didn't necessarily expect better out of Garriott, because he was always convinced that his way was the only way to do things, but van Caneghem has some original ideas that he's never been able to do. Perhaps in the future--if he gets a chance, in this modern gaming world ruled over by huge corporations.

[Rorschach]

Originally posted by Seraphon@Aug 23 2005, 03:30 PM
I don't remember the guardians needing you to answer a riddle. It has been a while since I played this game, but are you talking about the 'Merchants of the Elements' on one of the cloud roads, or the 'Element Sleepers', which require you to fall through holes in one of the cloud roads. (I'm not sure which world these are in, Clouds or Darkside)
The Element Sleepers are the ones you need to talk to, and you just need to speak to them to awaken them.

Yep, I meant the Elemental Sleepers themselves: when you step into the holes, you are asked "what do you seek", and I couldn't figure it out. But nevermind, in the meantime I tried it again, and turns out the reason why no one mentioned it as a riddle is that the answer is so straight-forward and obvious that it hardly qualifies as a riddle. So obvious, in fact, that I overlooked it as a possibility, the answer being simply each element. :bleh:

But tks still, the tip about the merchants did help: I was curious about them, and figured that the idea was a cross between the elements (as in the para- and quasi-elemental planes in old AD&D 2nd edition setting), but didn't get to figure what exactly the crossings would be. :ok:

Ok, so, I finished MM IV & V, now where do I d/l MM VI? ;)

[Ian]

I have a problem that says theres no "expanded memory". How do I fix this?

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Ian@Aug 31 2005, 07:50 PM
I have a problem that says theres no "expanded memory". How do I fix this?
Are you playing through DOSbox, or launching it through Windows--and if the latter, what version?

[Batmaniac]

Hi all, I'm having some problems installing World of Xeen from the Might and Magic Millenium edition CD.

I'm trying to install the Clouds, Darkside, and Worlds of Xeen option.

I tried installing it and it recognized my XP as NT and wouldn't install. So I went and explored the drive my disk was in and changed as many .exe files to compatibility mode 98 and it managed to install. Running it is of course another story. I knew it wouldn't run in plain XP but I tried anyway. Wouldn't even boot up the xeen.exe file after installation.

So I turned to the mighty DOSBox but that didn't turn out too well. I installed it through DOSBox picking all the recommended options but when I try to run xeen.exe it will tell me that there is no CD-ROM or something, and I do have the CD in the drive but I don't think that's the issue.

Can anybody who has gotten this to work help me out or direct me to a place that can help?

[mudman]

AAAAWWWWESSSOOOMMMEEEEE!!! :w00t: My most fav game of all time!! and definate best of the series!!! i cant believe i found it.... or you host it... or whatever :D I have the same problem with hanging on the intros.... but it also happens to me if i use the tavern or any of the guilds..... any ideas?

[mudman]

Originally posted by Bobbin Threadbare@Jul 11 2005, 06:03 AM
This system is a lot like Pokémon (the Gameboy game). At the start your Pokémon can only get to level 20. If they get higher, they disobey you. This is why you should have multippple Pokémon at your side instad of the one. To let them grow igher you must get Gym badges, in each city until you have eight. Once you have them all Pokémon up to level 500 will obey you. Even though it only goes up to 200.
????

[Thr33why]

Any one know where I can get MM3? I loved Worlds of Xeen, but I've finished it. Never did complete MM3, would love too. Me and my brother spents hours and hours playing Might & Magic. It was great.

Also i'm having trouble getting World of Xeen to run. After the intro I get sound but no picture. i'm using VDMS with soundblaster 16. Any suggestions?

Cheers

Thr33why

[Nameless One]

Originally posted by Omuletzu@Jul 12 2005, 04:32 PM
And besides there was a tombstone which said '' stitched live '' i think.I didn't knew what that meant.
A stitch in time saves nine.

[Guest]

What is considered the standard though? warrior or adventurer mode?

[aged gamer]

:help: I downloaded this game but was unable to install it,it says i need a floppy which i dont. If anyone has any insite that would help it would be greatly appreciated[ive downloaded this game but am unable to install it. it says i have to have a as i have wanted to play this game forever. :tomato:

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by aged gamer@Oct 16 2005, 04:25 PM
:help: I downloaded this game but was unable to install it,it says i need a floppy which i dont. If anyone has any insite that would help it would be greatly appreciated[ive downloaded this game but am unable to install it. it says i have to have a as i have wanted to play this game forever. :tomato:
How are you trying to run it? DOSBox?

[aged gamer]

Im not sure Im pretty new to my computer and im not sure exactly what i have to do to get it to run on my computer.Im not really sure ,what is dos Box? Thanx for responding

[aged gamer]

:help: I tried To install dosbox as per the tutorial howeverwhen i finish and try to start it up it boots up into Z\: and not C\: as i think it should. I have xp and am new and totally confused. could someone please shed some light on this for me if you could that would be great. thank you :cry:

[Lonely Vazdru]

It's normal that DosBox boots on Z:. Let's take an example. Let's say that you installed World of Xeen in a directory named Xeen, situated in another directory named oldgames (where you store all your oldies that need DosBox to run) on hard drive D:.
On the Z: prompt you type mount c d:\oldgames
The DosBox will then confirm that your virtual hard drive c: is now indeed your oldgames directory.
But the Z: prompt is still here. So type cd c: and you are on c: (which is really d:\oldgames, as you and i know, but the computer is fooled). You can now go to any of your old games. For xeen, type cd xeen (or cd whatever game directory's name, for another game). Once you see the C:\Xeen\ prompt you just type Xeen and here you go.

I hope this was clear. :blink:

So in case you haven't noticed you need a little Dos skills too. And then if you finally manage to launch the game, you'll probably experience sound problems. We'll talk more if it is the case, but one step at a time. :D

[Austin]

Originally posted by Guest@Sep 20 2005, 09:37 AM
What is considered the standard though? warrior or adventurer mode?
Play it in warrior mode.

Trust me.

Also, I have a question - Has anyone figured out how to edit the characters yet? I don't mind rolling, but I am lazy.

[Austin]

Originally posted by Austin@Nov 4 2005, 08:31 AM
Also, I have a question - Has anyone figured out how to edit the characters yet? I don't mind rolling, but I am lazy.
Nevermind.. I figured it out.

Now I can give my characters whatever stats I want via a hex editor.

Yay!

[Austin]

Speaking of which.. if anyone needs any cheatmods done to their characters stats, let me know. I can make them young again :)

you can contact me at austinwichita -AT- aohell dot com

of course, no spaces, like so.....

....chita@aol.com

[Guest]

Updater's Note: The game will definitely not run with XP. I found that running the game through VDM sound offered the best gaming experience, especially where the sound was concerned. From my experience, I recommend using this program.

THIS IS NOT TRUE !!

I have play this game under pure WindowsXP without ANY problems - even wtih sond and movies !!

Just give the "Xeen.exe" and "Xeen.com" 640kb of base memory insted of default "Automatic".

[Guest]

The problem with running the game this way is that some of the timers are completely off.

[aged gamer]

:ok: So I figured out what’s going on with the game.

You might want to print this out so you can refer to it when you’re in DOSBox.



First of all, create a folder called dos in c:

Run the zip file you downloaded to install World of Xeen

When the unzip program asks you where to unzip the files tell it c:\dos\

Now open up My Computer and go to c:\dos

Single click on the World of Xeen folder

Press F2 and change the folder name to WOXeen



This is the end of the setup in windows



Now go to your start menu and run DOSBox

Press ALT+Enter to make it full screen

Type in the following: mount c c:\



Now type c:

Now type cd dos

Now type cd woxeen

Now type install

Press y to install the game

Now you should just have to type go

You can press ESC to skip all the intros



The game should launch fine and all should be good





Hopefully this works as it should… it worked fine for me on my computer. The reason you were getting the memory error is because you were running the game from windows and it was totally skipping any of the DOSBox features that you installed

[Austin]

Originally posted by Guest@Nov 5 2005, 06:59 AM
The problem with running the game this way is that some of the timers are completely off.
Ack! I meant to quote the guy above when I did this. i meant.... the problem with running the game in XP mode with the memory settings on all the files set so that the game thinks it has enough memory, is that that doesn't account for the in game timers for alot of things.

So... playing the game this way messes with some of the timers.

[GregTheBunny]

Having played and owning all 9 games in the series (bought them all) I know that 4 & 5 are the best. Note that they are also the easiest. I'd rank from easiest to hardest (4,5,7,8,6,3,9,2,1). 6 was really good, but it needed the technology upgrade provided in 7. Alas, 7 was not as strong a game and 8 had bad sequalitis. 9 was horrible I'm sorry to say, between the graphics and the interface. As for the early ones, 1 was far too hard. Often the first combat would kill a lvl 1 party. However, 2 got a little easier and had nicer graphics. 3 was really good, and paved the way for the best one (two?).

To confirm what nearly everyone has said already: Swords was a 3rd party expansion pack that was included in the collectors edition of M&M 6. World of Xeen was Clouds of Xeen + Darkside of Xeen.

I would have posted copy codes, but they're already up. Also, I can upload the others if people are interested, though 6 thru 9 are considered off limits because they are still sold occasionally (Check around on ebay to find them cheap). Don't want 3DO breathing down my neck. Not to mention that the games are huge.

[Mikers]

Hi. Hope I'm doing this right. Just downloaded world of xeen, and it brought back some memories.
I did have trouble with the "password protect", and from other posters, I'm not alone in this. The manual doesn't jive with the instructions.
Anyway, I used a bypass file from an old Clouds of Xeen and it works fine.

I also have a savegame utility that lets you modify all character attributes, plus gold & gems.

If anyone's interested in either or both, email me at signemrs@netscape.com and I'll send 'em on to you.

Mike

[boygod4u]

Here is my compilation of what various attributes will do to your armor/weapons/accessories.

One of the most common mistakes is that people assume that the attributes are the same for ranged weapons. This is not so. Unfortunately, I do not have a comprehensive list for ranged weapons. That is one area I am lacking as I noticed this disparity late in the game.

Here is my list.

SP
Spell +4???
Mystic +5???
Castors +8
Witch +12
Mage +16???
Archmage +20???
Arcane +25???

[moogle]

Does anybody know if it has the turn based mode of the other Might and Magics? I can't seem to find it...

[Borodin]

Turn-based? Yes, it is.

[Guest]

the best is might and magic II..... and MM3

[Temple of Bark Disciple]

Hey I bought this game a few years ago, but the sound never worked. I just downloaded this abandonia version and dos box. I can get everything to load, but everything is really slow and skippy, but the sound at least works. It takes a minute just to get past the opening dragon-bug scene. I tried the frame skipping, and the ctrl F11 and F12, but I can't get it to get any faster of smoother. Any ideas?

[Skypup]

Fantastic Game - reminds me of The Bard's Tale 1,2 and 3. for the Apple 2. Just wondering though :blink: ... how can I turn the music down (or off) in the Intros for World of Xeen ... the one where the lizardman is walking thru his castle and looking into his crystal ball... I can hardly hear a word he's saying because the music is so darned loud.... I can turn the music off in the options submenu, but then I can't return back to the intros...

Also I cannot depart vertigo ... like other gamers, I've typed 4 or 5 letters for the password and "INCORRECT" keeps popping up. (YES.. I've run the game using "GO.BAT") :tai: IF I had enough gold, could I purchase a JUMP spell and jump over the outer City walls?

Lastly, (I've got a list here! :cry: ) how again do I transfer items from one player to another? I've tried discarding it and then having the other player search (as in heroes of Age of Wonders), but I guess item is permanently gone from game. I know your supposed to right click on the receiving player, but that's it.... :tomato: Any ideas out there??

[Borodin]

In answer to your last question: have you tried highlighting the item, then hitting the number key assigned to that party member?

[Guest]

Hi,

i have my Might and Magiv V Darkside of Xeen "BestSellerGames"-Version but without the magazin :-( Ok, installing... no problems. Now i'm playing and then "keywords..." hmm... i lost the magazin on the years and now i cant play again without the keywords :cry: Can anybody help me ? The Readme says, on the last side were the keywords printed :crazy: Has anybody a copy or scan of this side or keywords for MM5 ?

Thanks

F. Roehrig

[Guest]

im so sorry... www.replacementdocs.com !!! THX :D

[Guest]

and the next problem... my MM5 is in german, the codes of www.replacementdocs.com dont work. Is anybody here, who has the german version + german codes ?

Gruß
F. Roehrig

[Vroomfondel]

I hope somebody can help with this. I'm running WoX on Windows XP Pro through DosBox 0.63. No problems completing everything on the Clouds of Xeen side. I've moved over to the Dark Side and have completed all the basic Castleview quests. I've got the key to Ellinger's Tower, but can't get inside without the game crashing. The cut-scene starts with the alien-looking girl saying I have the right key and then the game prompts to switch from CD2 back to CD1 and the CD-ROM tray auto-ejects. It hangs there, after loading CD1 nothing happens.

Anyone have a fix or workaround? Thanks.

[Raptor2k]

Don't request esa games they are illegal. -punch

[Elward]

I'm on XP with a Sound Blaster Live! and I have a music issue. When I run Xeen via a shortcut without VDMSound, no music plays, when I run it with VDMS, the music plays but at about half speed, and, with DOSBox, the music plays, but the game is just so slow. What advice have you?

-EE

[gothmog]

one of the best ever.. the whole might and magic series actually. although X was a complete rip-off. how did they dare produce that crap... seems to me to have been the end of the series. a loss to the world of gamers.

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Elward@Jan 17 2006, 08:47 AM
I'm on XP with a Sound Blaster Live! and I have a music issue. When I run Xeen via a shortcut without VDMSound, no music plays, when I run it with VDMS, the music plays but at about half speed, and, with DOSBox, the music plays, but the game is just so slow. What advice have you?

-EE
Go the DOSbox homepage, and check out the command for speeding up the game. See if that works.

one of the best ever.. the whole might and magic series actually. although X was a complete rip-off. how did they dare produce that crap... seems to me to have been the end of the series. a loss to the world of gamers.

I think you mean Might and Magic IX, since there's been no M&M X, yet. After M&M VIII received lackluster if positive reviews, Tripp Hawkins, the CEO of 3DO (who had purchased New World Computing, developers of the M&M series) decided to take the title away from van Caneghem and company, and give it to a group of programmers who had never made a professional game, before. They didn't release on time, so Hawkins (much like Lucasarts with KotoR2, and so many other recent titles) decided to release it, anyway. M&M IX was severely flawed, not only with plenty of bugs and rushed coding, but also at a fundamental level. It felt like there was a lot of glitz and next to no substance. M&M IX was panned, but by then, Hawkins had other worries on his hands. The said thing is that van Caneghem never got back ownership of his property after 3DO collapsed, and the people who are making a new Might and Magic title haven't contacted him. In fact, from interviews, it appears they're just cynically exploting the brand name, to make a title with no real ties to the originally gameplay.

[Psychobbble]

i own this game from way back in the day(and can verify this with photographs) but I went to install it again the other day and some of the many floppies are corrupted :(. I can't find an english language abandonware version of it anywhere, can someone help me out?

[Barkman27]

This game may be one of my favorite games ever. If you have played it a little you may know who Barkman is. If you want to see his site and movie adventures, go to barkman27.tripod.com.
I own this game and it works without sound on my Win ME. I tried DosBox and everything works, but it is waaaay slow (imagine a tone of the music playing only once every 5 seconds.) I have tried everything about "speeding up games," but it just doesn't work. I think it's impossible with my comp, but that's ok. All I really want is the music. Does anyone know if the music is out online (midi) or how to extract it from the game files?

[RPGgamemasta]

I'm in love with this game. Is there a way to install VDMsound? It says I have to be in an administrator user, but I don't have users on my pc, it just turns on and I use it. :wall:

[liver kick]

You know what. Back in the days of 386's I bought this game. it was actually clouds of xeen i think yeah it was. It came in like twelve floppy disks, the really floppy ones. It never worked because I was a kid and didn't know how to adjust ems and stuff. But now I think i'm going to give this game a try with dosbox. So how is this game, is it like eye of the beholder?

[Elward]

I can speed the game, but eventually it becomes an exercise in diminishing returns. I can at least theoretically get enough cycles to run the game at a tolerable speed, but doing so freezes DOSBox.

-EE

[Guest]

Hmm...wish the download was still available for this. I own the Ultimate RPG Archives set, which includes all the speech and stuff, but I can't find the damn CD now and I'm dying to play it again!

[Borodin]

Originally posted by Guest@Feb 23 2006, 09:46 AM
Hmm...wish the download was still available for this. I own the Ultimate RPG Archives set, which includes all the speech and stuff, but I can't find the damn CD now and I'm dying to play it again!
It's cheap. Check Amazon or eBay.

[Guest]

I spent from 2am to 5am last night looking for the damn game, went to sleep, looked for it again today and I found it! I was pretty obsessive as far as finding it went. haha

[Trisk]

Gah. I bought Worlds of Xeen in the Might and Magic Millenium edition. It is the CD version of the game...and I canNOT get it to run!

VDMsound just locks up with a blinking cursor.

Running in pure XP the game says I don't have a CDROM drive.

Running in DosBox, with MSCDEX mounted as the D Drive, I can install the game off the CD just fine. But when I go to run the game, it says I have a MUSIC CD in the drive! I DO NOT! I've got the bloody @#$@# game disk! :ranting:

I want to play this game something AWEFUL, and this is amazingly frustrating. I'm really not sure what else to do.

I also tried to run in on my old ME box, and got an error that I don't have enough memory, and that I need 0 bytes more to get the game to run :wall:

Can anybody tell me what I can do? Is there a way to make the CDROM version of the game not require the CD?

Would making my ME box into a 98SE box and going to pure dos mode work?

Trisk

[MrGrinch]

I thought this was abandonware??? why do I have to buy it?? cant i download it?? i have the mac version from like 29870356879025 years ago.... best game ever btw.... some1 let me know where to get it plz ASAP

[Borodin]

Originally posted by MrGrinch@Mar 2 2006, 01:50 AM
I thought this was abandonware??? why do I have to buy it?? cant i download it?? i have the mac version from like 29870356879025 years ago.... best game ever btw.... some1 let me know where to get it plz ASAP
I see that Amazon has World of Xeen, Sword of Xeen, M&M VI and M&M VII, all packaged together, for less than $10.

[Trisk]

FYI to anybody who might be thinking about purchasing a games pack to get the xeen games...

The edition that comes in the "Might and Magic: Millenium Edition" (This is the version you are recommending, Borodin. Not a good idea.) is the CD ROM edition, and I was NOT able to get it to work under DosBox, VDMSound, OR straight XP. If anyone has any idea how to get it running, please let me know. The problem has to do with the CD-ROM...

WOX can't recognize modern cdrom drives. Even with the MSCDEX wrapper loaded under DosBox, the program would bomb out telling me "There is a music CD loaded in the CD-ROM drive. Please replace with a Might and Magic CD and rerun the application."


HOWEVER, the good news is you can still buy, for cheaper, "Might and Magic VI: Special Edition" Which contains the DISK versions of ALL Might and magics 1 - 5, plus swords. These games are EASY to get running, both under VDMSound and DosBox.

This is how I ended up getting them to run. And what great games they are! :ok:

Trisk

[Borodin]

The edition that comes in the "Might and Magic: Millenium Edition" (This is the version you are recommending, Borodin. Not a good idea.) is the CD ROM edition, and I was NOT able to get it to work under DosBox, VDMSound, OR straight XP. If anyone has any idea how to get it running, please let me know. The problem has to do with the CD-ROM...

I wasn't recommending it. I was responding to MrGrinch's question about where he could buy it. As to not suggesting it--I would think we'd do better to find out MrGrinch's Windows flavor before completely ruling it out, wouldn't you?

[Gorelab]

This might seem stupid, but I seem to have Clouds of Xeen and Darkside of Xeen, but for some reason the Darkside of Xeen won't link to Clouds of Xeen. Is there any way to do this manually? Thanks.

[guesst]

Originally posted by Borodin@Mar 10 2006, 01:48 PM
The edition that comes in the "Might and Magic: Millenium Edition" (This is the version you are recommending, Borodin. Not a good idea.) is the CD ROM edition, and I was NOT able to get it to work under DosBox, VDMSound, OR straight XP. If anyone has any idea how to get it running, please let me know. The problem has to do with the CD-ROM...

I wasn't recommending it. I was responding to MrGrinch's question about where he could buy it. As to not suggesting it--I would think we'd do better to find out MrGrinch's Windows flavor before completely ruling it out, wouldn't you?
Am I the only one who will purchase a game to justify my piracy? Half the time you need to do some light of hand to get your game running anyways, it's just easier to aquire a cracked/hacked/edited version of the game, but I buy it anyways just to be an honest, law abiding pirate.

[The Fifth Horseman]

...but isn't that an oxymoron?

[Saed]

Originally posted by mupton@Jul 6 2005, 09:58 PM
Thank you for uploading this wonderful game. It was really the game that got me into the rpg genre. BTW, if anyone knows the password to the console on the bottom level of the dungeon of death, please post it. Also I never figured out what the traders were transporting between the elements on the skyway. I think those are the only puzzles I never solved. (...)
I played this game long time ago but i still remember my Dungeon of Death trip without any clues and with no knowledge of what awaited me there. After getting to the ultra hard "Lord Xeen production facility" level, killing all Xeens and destroying all Xeen machines you can type "computer" at the terminal to get... some sort of 'congratulations!' message.. That's all. Yeah, i was a bit dissapointed too. Years later i tried to find out if there were some other things to do in Dungeon of Death but found nothing at all about this.

As for the element trader's goods - they're trading mixed elements:
air and earth = DUST
fire and air = SMOKE
water and earth = MUD
fire and water = STEAM

[Guest]

I can't run this. At all.

If I try DosBox, it will either tell me that I have a music CD in the drive, or that the file that I am trying to run doesn't exist. If I try to run it with VDMSound, all I get is that annoying blinking cursor.

I'm using the Interplay RPG compilation version, if that helps.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Have you tried changing the low-level CD support? It's explained in the readme, BTW.

[Guest]

In DosBox? Yes. I've tried doing it with -ioctl, which is the only one where I don't get that annoying music CD message. Of course, instead of that, I get an annoying no such file message.

[Guest]

I purchased Worlds of Xeen, and tried installing it, and it says I can't run it on Windows NT, I have to install it on Windows 95 or 98, how can I do this?

Thank you

[The Fifth Horseman]

That's simple, and you said the answer already. Install it on Windows 95 or 98.

[Mr. Mase Kruscher]

Hey fellow WOX addicts, I've been trying to get Dosbox to work for awhile now, and have finally got it! I just unplugged the joystick, and it worked much faster. If you are having a speed issue, try unplugging a resource demanding piece of hardware.
I have been playing Swords of Xeen (a spinnoff), just like it was meant to on DOS, and decided to try World of Xeen. I had the disk and everything, and put it in, then tried to play using Dosbox. It said I needed to mount the CD-ROM, so I did, and it still won't detect the disc. Is there a way to play w/o the disc? I remember trying to play the WOX I downloaded here (which didn't need a disc), but that was before I figured out Dosbox, and I deleted :wall: the download file. If there is no way to get the disc working, can I download the game again here, or was it taken off for good? Thanks.

[The Fifth Horseman]

The game might be back, but there is no telling when.

As for your problems with the CD:
1. Did you mount the CD as you would mount a hard drive? For the CD to be "seen" by DosBox as such, you need to use particular triggers in the MOUNT command (they are detailed in the readme file).
2. You might consider making a disc image. I remember that DosBox can mount at least some types of CD images as virtual drives.

[Mr. Mase Kruscher]

Thanks for the reply. I looked through the Dosbox readme, and saw that there were several levels of support. I tried all 3 of them, and they haven't worked, but I could be doing it wrong. There is a tricky part of the command in the last two levels of cd-rom support which say "-usecd 0." Maybe I have to put in a number here.

As for the disc image, Does DosBox have a function where you can take an image of the disc, then use the image through Dosbox?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Yes, if I remember right you just give it the path to the disc image in the MOUNT command.

[Aarim de Grujam Lorr]

Who to make the world of xeen?

im trying but i just can't do it right....

TKS!

[The Fifth Horseman]

Extract both Xeen games to the same directory, Darkside goes second I think.

[Mase Kruscher]

I have made a .iso CD-ROM image, and still just mounting that, it says I have a music cd loaded. Maybe it's something to do with the fact that it is from the Millenium edition cd.
Btw, I found a very cool site (the most detail of WOX): http://f45.aaa.livedoor.jp/~mighty/index2.html
The bad thing- it is mostly in Japanese! But by using babelfish, you can get most of the meaning out of it.

[Godz]

Shot in the dark, here, if anyone can help me with various problems I'm having.

1 - I have MM4 and 5, but, cannot get them to "find" each other or whatever to create the linked "World" game. Any ideas?

2 - When I run this game in DosBox, it works, but its slow, and there's no music. When I run it with VDMSound, the music plays, but the game animation is incredibly fast! Any solutions?

[The Fifth Horseman]

1. Pur MM4 files into a directory and then put MM5 files in the same place. Try running MM5. This should work... _I think_

2. In DosBox, change the soundcard emulation to SBPRO2 (instead of SB16) and increase the number of cycles DosBox is running at. Make sure the game's setup is configured correctly to match the emulated soundcard type and its IRQ, DMA (etc) values.

[Godz]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jul 3 2006, 12:50 PM) 241218</div>
1. Pur MM4 files into a directory and then put MM5 files in the same place. Try running MM5. This should work... _I think_

2. In DosBox, change the soundcard emulation to SBPRO2 (instead of SB16) and increase the number of cycles DosBox is running at. Make sure the game's setup is configured correctly to match the emulated soundcard type and its IRQ, DMA (etc) values.
[/b]


Thanks, but I'd been trying number 1 already and it didnt work. I'll try your DosBox suggestion, however, I've never edited anything on it before LOL

EDIT: Alright, I finally got the games to recognize each other (When I put them both in a new directory I called C:\Xeen it worked). Even with some tinkering around, I can't get proper sound in DosBox. The game now runs perfectly in VDMSound, BUT....the music tempo is too slow, if this makes any sense. Is there any way to speed it up? If not I'll just deal with it cause I love these games.

Second EDIT: Actually now I've got it working near perfect in DosBox! So this'll keep me busy for a while, at least until my girlfriend starts griping that she's bored and wants to go do something. <_<

[Godz]

Just for the record, though, how DO I change the soundblaster settings like you mentioned? I'm looking at the readme for dosbox and I dont understand

[The Fifth Horseman]

The settings are stored in DosBox.conf file in the program directory. I suggest you familiarize yourself with working on it pretty fast.
The start menu DosBox cathegory also includes a link to DosBox.conf.

More on the config file here. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=dosbox.conf)

[Godz]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Jul 4 2006, 11:08 AM) 241420</div>
The settings are stored in DosBox.conf file in the program directory. I suggest you familiarize yourself with working on it pretty fast.
The start menu DosBox cathegory also includes a link to DosBox.conf.

More on the config file here. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=dosbox.conf)
[/b]

Thanks I'd been trying to find a way to access the conf. file, I couldnt find it for some reason but there it is in the start menu. Now its perfect

[RichardMV]

I have a really evil nagging issue that, although my DL-ed version of the game has been working fine up to this point, is keeping me from proceding. Finding an online PDF of the Clouds of Xeen manual and aqcuireing Lloyd Beacon has allowed me to get by all of the "copyright protection" so far, and I can link between worlds, get sound working, etc. I've managed to get my characters up to level 61, and have gone to all but a few of the last locations in both games (and am able to take on nearly any enemy with ease). However, I recently (upon finally having enough GP to be able to afford it) returned to the Eastern tower to read the book of Great Knowledge (or whatever it is called), which gives each character "+5 levels (permanent)", but makes them lose all skills. Then, I excitedly teleported back to Shangri La using Lloyd's Beacon so that I could go to the guy that offers all secondary skills for 100,000 GP per character. Upon arriving at Shangri La, I saved for some stupid reason... that's where my trouble began.

Now, whenever I go back to the clouds of Xeen world, I am unable to move without using a teleport spell (I hear the sound of running into an object wherever I move), and all areas appear without walls or monsters, however objects like towns, tents, buildings, etc. are all still there (and usually accessable, although there's "nothing there" whenever I go up to the counters/podiums in Shangri La, the place I REALLY need to get to to get all my secondary abilities back.

If anyone can help me with this issue (without saying restart the game... please don't say that... unless that's the only option...) I'd really appreciate it. I had Darkside of Xeen when I was 8 (when it first came out) and my cousin and I LOVED the game and played it religiously and multiple times, struggling with the puzzles which now seem laughable and eventually reaching the final "battle" scene. We always wanted to have Clouds so we could really finish the game, and now I finally have it... Yay for the memories!

[RichardMV]

Okay, I went through the entire thread to reply to every question that I could answer that hadn't yet been addressed (or that I could add more detail to) and respond to a few things. The responses go from most recent back. I know it's a bit long, sorry... Also, I think the quoting thing isn't working, which might not be fun for reading...



Am I the only one who will purchase a game to justify my piracy? Half the time you need to do some light of hand to get your game running anyways, it's just easier to aquire a cracked/hacked/edited version of the game, but I buy it anyways just to be an honest, law abiding pirate.


I buy games that are still sold, and download games that are no longer published (anything N64 or previous, computer games 1995 or so or older). I'll probably end up getting one of the collections, but I really had a strong urge to play the game again, so I had to get it ASAP, and downloading is quicker than waiting for a box from Amazon or E-bay.

As for my DL-ing... I only play to try, I never keep anything I've DL-ed once I'm done with it, which I view as fair. If I like it enough that I would buy it, I will. I view that as fair, moral piracy. Afterall, if the company isn't making any money on the game (as is the case with abandonware and other things that are no longer produced), what's the problem? Am I the only one that looks at it that way?



i own this game from way back in the day(and can verify this with photographs) but I went to install it again the other day and some of the many floppies are corrupted :(. I can't find an english language abandonware version of it anywhere, can someone help me out?


Search some torrents sites for "World of Xeen" and you'll find a set of old PC games. That's where I got it. Unfortunately you'll have to have all the other games, but it's worth the wait. It also has DosBox in the pack, so that will probably save you time getting that.



Also I cannot depart vertigo ... like other gamers, I've typed 4 or 5 letters for the password and "INCORRECT" keeps popping up. (YES.. I've run the game using "GO.BAT") :tai: IF I had enough gold, could I purchase a JUMP spell and jump over the outer City walls?


Jump spells won't let you go through walls (no spell will give you that ability), plus, because each area is seperate, the only way to go from one to the next is through a designated passageway (for example, the door from Vertigo to the outside). If you Google -"Clouds of Xeen" manual pdf- you should be able to find it (perhaps leave off the pdf if that doesn't help). There's a game manuals site that I ended up finding it on, but I don't remember the address, sorry...



I would have posted copy codes, but they're already up. Also, I can upload the others if people are interested, though 6 thru 9 are considered off limits because they are still sold occasionally (Check around on ebay to find them cheap). Don't want 3DO breathing down my neck. Not to mention that the games are huge.


3DO went through Chapter 11 bankruptcy and is no longer with us. I don't know who has the rights to the old games, now, but you can probably find them if you know where to look (search torrent sites *cough*)



Im not sure Im pretty new to my computer and im not sure exactly what i have to do to get it to run on my computer.Im not really sure ,what is dos Box? Thanx for responding


Dosbox is a dos emulator, which means that it makes your computer 'think' that it's running off of Dos, fixing many of the compatibility issues you might face trying to run many old games off of a computer running XP. I found it when I downloaded a set of really old computer games (including World of Xeen, which is what I got the set for to begin with).



How do you catch the chest in Castleview? It's been so long since I've played this game that I don't remember.


Ellinger will tell it to stay still after you talk with him for the first time... just go into the room with the chest and chase it for a bit and eventually it will stop in the middle for you.



About age: The game shouldn't last long enough for normal aging to cripple your characters. However, some monsters have the ability to age your party. Mostly undead. If you suspect you're facing these monsters, save. Save a lot. I don't remember if World offers anything like Isle's Fountain of Youth; if it does, you can afford to be a little more aggressive, since that will remove any monster-induced aging. If it doesn't, treat age-making monsters like they're instant killers; if your characters get stuck with an additional 300 years distributed throughout the party, they'll be pretty well useless.


In Necropolis, the books of the dead will age a character anywhere from 25 to 100 years (while giving them lots of free exp). Fortunately, once you get the jewel back from... can't remember where it was, now... and take it to the fountain of youth in the south-east corner of Darkside, you can easily cure all artificial aging on your party. In Clouds, you have to take items between four druids, but that's much more tedious (although you'll need a higher level party to get the fountain of youth activated).



I finished all the dwarven mine levels(1-5), and i found the word that probably leads to the dwarven king.But the cart won't move
The word i found was aipha.
Could you guys tell me what word have you used to reach him?


Deep mines = Alpha, Kappa, Theta, Omega



Also, a bug in the game, any item other than armor that is made up of material (like medals, amulets) does not give AC bonus's, thus are worthless to wear.

Example. A Obsidian medal. Obsidian on armor gives +20 ac, obsidian on a medal gives... nothing. Thus a steel medal and a obsidian medal both do absolutely nothing. I found this out sadly half way through the game.


I don't think this was a bug. I think it's sort of like what you see in Dungeons and Dragons: the items are just intended as money makers. Afterall, we have valuable diamond rings in the real world that don't do anything useful, but are still extremely valuable, so why can't the game?



BY THE WAY, I RETURNED THE WHISTLE(WHICH I FOUND IN THE FOREST FULL OF UNDEAD) TO THE NPC SOUTH OF VERTIGO (ON A SMALL ISLAND, USE THE JUMP SPELL), HE TOLKED ABAUT STATUES THAT CAN TEACH CURE POISEN, BUT I NEVER FOUND THE STATUES?


They're in the woods close to Vertigo... to the north I think, and west of the flute man (I can't remember exactly, right now...). Of course... you're probably not having this issue now...



is the combat similar like in Ultima underworld? or more like in Eye of beholder?


Eye of the Beholder, but with GP, more NPCs (compared to Eye's severe lack thereof), and much, much longer. Think Baulders Gate's town exploration, treasure hunting, and questing, combined with Eye's first person style.

[Guest]

Is this anywhere that you can purchase a *download* of this game? My laptop doesn't have a working CD drive right now, so I don't think the millenium edition that is on the link will work for me. Or am I just SOL until I get a new CD drive?

A.

[RichardMV]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jul 7 2006, 04:06 AM) 242050</div>
Is this anywhere that you can purchase a *download* of this game? My laptop doesn't have a working CD drive right now, so I don't think the millenium edition that is on the link will work for me. Or am I just SOL until I get a new CD drive?

A.
[/b]

You can find it for free, but because it's still sold, I can't tell you where to find it. Plus, the search is half the fun. I don't think there's a pay download, anywhere, otherwise, I'd be pointing you and my browser there right now.

[Guest]

My problem is only a very minor one, just an annoyance, really.

In the setup for the game, you can tell it not to change the volume. So far, so good. However, whenever you get one of the animations such as the one where you enter a city on Darkside, or the Red Dwarf Range, the game will still change the volume on the soundcard. Any way to prevent this?

:tease:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Maybe there is an interal options menu in the game itself?

[Talin]

3DO went through Chapter 11 bankruptcy and is no longer with us. I don't know who has the rights to the old games, now, but you can probably find them if you know where to look (search torrent sites *cough*)[/b]

Ubisoft got the trademark "Might and Magic" nowadays.
and hopefully they will do a MM10.

My problem is only a very minor one, just an annoyance, really.

In the setup for the game, you can tell it not to change the volume. So far, so good. However, whenever you get one of the animations such as the one where you enter a city on Darkside, or the Red Dwarf Range, the game will still change the volume on the soundcard. Any way to prevent this?[/b]

dunno, that option should keep the volume at normal lvls, or perhaps its something to do with dosbox, if it is on that you are playing?

[Guest]

i've played M&M V

But for me M&M VI is forever the best game i ever play :wub:

[The Fifth Horseman]

Never got round to finishing M&MVI, really.

Maybe I finally should do it...

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Richard Veysey @ Jul 7 2006, 06:20 AM) 242045</div>
I have a really evil nagging issue that, although my DL-ed version of the game has been working fine up to this point, is keeping me from proceding. Finding an online PDF of the Clouds of Xeen manual and aqcuireing Lloyd Beacon has allowed me to get by all of the "copyright protection" so far, and I can link between worlds, get sound working, etc. I've managed to get my characters up to level 61, and have gone to all but a few of the last locations in both games (and am able to take on nearly any enemy with ease). However, I recently (upon finally having enough GP to be able to afford it) returned to the Eastern tower to read the book of Great Knowledge (or whatever it is called), which gives each character "+5 levels (permanent)", but makes them lose all skills. Then, I excitedly teleported back to Shangri La using Lloyd's Beacon so that I could go to the guy that offers all secondary skills for 100,000 GP per character. Upon arriving at Shangri La, I saved for some stupid reason... that's where my trouble began.

Now, whenever I go back to the clouds of Xeen world, I am unable to move without using a teleport spell (I hear the sound of running into an object wherever I move), and all areas appear without walls or monsters, however objects like towns, tents, buildings, etc. are all still there (and usually accessable, although there's "nothing there" whenever I go up to the counters/podiums in Shangri La, the place I REALLY need to get to to get all my secondary abilities back.

If anyone can help me with this issue (without saying restart the game... please don't say that... unless that's the only option...) I'd really appreciate it. I had Darkside of Xeen when I was 8 (when it first came out) and my cousin and I LOVED the game and played it religiously and multiple times, struggling with the puzzles which now seem laughable and eventually reaching the final "battle" scene. We always wanted to have Clouds so we could really finish the game, and now I finally have it... Yay for the memories!
[/b]

Any thoughts on my problem (sorry, it's been a while, and the conversation seems to have moved on...)?

[The Fifth Horseman]

Redownload the game.

[Tranax the Earth Wizard]

I was playing this game again and have started a new game where the party is Ranger-Archer-Paladin-Archer-Paladin-Robber. Every character can use a bow and is good in melee, and by having 2 archers and 2 paladins, there is still equal spell power to a party w/ 1 cleric and a sorceror (one arch uses spell missiles, the other casts Pre-combat-power-ups---like day of sorcery, power shield, wizard eye, etc. One paladin casts healing spells, and the other casts the clerical PCPU's). It's kind of tough managing it, but this is the most powerful party I've played as.

[kmonster]

@Tranax the Earth Wizard

At the beginning it's nice if everyone can use bows but your party is very weak in melee.
A barbarian and 3 clerics will do far more melee damage than 4 paladins.
A barbarian and 2 mages will do more melee damage than 3 archers.

The reason is that barbarians get an extra attack every 4 levels, while archers,paladins,rangers or robbers need 6 levels, clerics and druids 7 and mages 8.
So the difference in fighting skill between barbarian and half-caster is far bigger than between half-caster and full caster. At level 84 the barbarian gets 22 attacks, the paladin 15 and the cleric 13 for example. Since the amount of damage reduction for enemy AC doesn't seem to depend on the number of attacks, the difference in combat power between barbarian and paladin is even far bigger than it seems.

You will find monsters you can't scratch in melee very often and you'll be forced to use spells which require gems.

I don't think your party is powerful, you've just become a more skilled player.

[Tranax]

Kmonster, I may try that new party out. Barbarian-Barbarian-Cleric-Cleric-Sorc-Robber.


"You will find monsters you can't scratch in melee very often and you'll be forced to use spells which require gems."
I actually had that trouble today, fighting a Gamma Gazer with my party. I barely got through, at the cost of 2 potions of the gods! And only my ranger with the obsidian battle axe (whoa I sound like a nerd, but hey... this is fun) could actually hit the monster. :titan:

"The reason is that barbarians get an extra attack every 4 levels"
I've seen the differences in attacks/lvl in the manual, but how does it work? At first I thought it made a character attack more (like several different times in one turn), but I never had that happen. Is it damage or chance-to-hit related?

[Guest]

I don't know exactly how the game mechanics work, I never found a documentation.
In older games like MM2 with text display in combat you can read something like "Knight attacks monster 5 times, hits 3 times for 50 damage."
Its probably the similar in WoX, just the text display is omitted.
But there's something (which doesn't depend on the number of attacks) subtracted from the total damage you inflict afterwards, it might depend on AC or a hidden monster stat.
So if you would only hit for a total of 50 against a high AC monster, it will stay unharmed.
The more attacks you have, the more likely is that you'll manage to cause damage.

I'd consider replacing at least one cleric with a paladin in your new party so you can use any item in the game. You only need enough spell points to cast your buffs.
My post should mainly outline the half-casters can't replace pure warriors, not that half-casters can't replace full casters.

My party couldn't scratch the Gamma Gazers either when they first met one, that's mainly because you are not supposed to explore their area before you are very experienced.
You are still able to beat the game with your old party, it's just not that easy. A level 60 paladin gets the same number of attacks as a level 40 barbarian after all.

[Pete]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Omuletzu @ Jul 15 2005, 02:59 PM) 131580</div>
http://xs37.xs.to/pics/05285/key.jpg.xs.jpg (http://xs.to/xs.php?h=xs37&d=05285&f=key.jpg)
[/b]

I'm having a lot of problems with the copy protection. I've purchased Clouds of Xeen and Darkside of Xeen separately (via an online download site - www.trygames.com) - and combined them into World of Xeen.

Unfortunately, it still has the copy protection enabled, and the supplied manuals have been repaginated, so none of the answers work!

I made it through MM4 by using Omuletzu' supplied jpeg (Thanks btw!).

Anyone have a similar list of keywords for Darkside of Xeen?

Thanks all in advance.

Pete

[kmonster]

You should ask the people you bought the game from to send the codes or your money back to you.
It's not your fault that you can't play the game.
Is the side you mentioned legal ? The prices are rather expensive than fair, but this doesn't prove anything.

[lior]

There's a pdf called keywords.pdf which contains the copy protection keywords for all the MM games.
The jpg you saw is actually a screen cap of the pdf.
here it is (http://www.gamemanuals.net/download/d0c2692257d5d42cd44bfd98de4c20d6/Might_and_Magic_Classics_-_Keywords_%28EN%29_%5BMisc%5D.pdf)

[RichardMV]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pete @ Aug 12 2006, 07:20 AM) 248075</div>

I'm having a lot of problems with the copy protection. I've purchased Clouds of Xeen and Darkside of Xeen separately (via an online download site - www.trygames.com) - and combined them into World of Xeen.

Unfortunately, it still has the copy protection enabled, and the supplied manuals have been repaginated, so none of the answers work!

I made it through MM4 by using Omuletzu' supplied jpeg (Thanks btw!).

Anyone have a similar list of keywords for Darkside of Xeen?

Thanks all in advance.

Pete
[/b]

I had the same problem, so the first time I went to Darkside, I just traveled through the sewers, since my party was strong enough, and I had the swimming ability. Then I found out that in Darkside, Town Portal teleports you outside of a town, so if you get town portal from Clouds, then use it in Castleview to teleport to Castleview, you'll be left standing right outside. You can also go to the top of Ellinger's Tower in Castleview, then fell off.

[desepchun]

so ive been playing this game for a few days. got my chars up past lvl 10. went into the castle and found a room i hadnt been in before. the kings room. two chests...whoo hoo. opened them and got jumped by these kings gaurds....well I dont take that laying down. reload and head back in, now Im determined to get those chests...I DIED FOR THEM...

well much to my dismay taking those chests seems to piss off the ENTIRE CASTLE.

here's my question. is there anyway to correct that? If I kill all the guards will I be able to talk to the king?

as I've saved over my game after taking the first chest Im kind of committed to it now...any way out of it outside of starting over? thankfully Im only lvl 10, heh.

[Guest]

I'm not sure killing the guards is gonna stop you from talking to the king... and besides, you won't be talking to him else than getting his quest.
But the real problem is, that taking down those guards is pretty hard...
You see, there's about twenty of them I think in the court, and they'll ambush you at every advisor (three of them each time) so I don't really recommend doing what you did.
There might be a chance for you to get out of there alive, but it would probably require ALOT of resting.
Good luck :P

[kmonster]

I don't remember robbing the chests having any effect on the king's behaviour. My party robbed all.
The guards aren't that tough. With the right equipment and protection spells you should be able to handle them. If you only open one chest at a time and kill all guards before opening the next one you might have an easier time or at least gain more experience.

You can try getting out of the castle without too many fights by using jump spells and sidestepping.
You can return once your party is more experienced and you have freed the important wells in the towns.

For fighting the guards you should use buffing spells like "day of protection" and "day of sorcery", if you can't cast them yet cast shield, bless, heroism and holy bonus.

The chest contents are not important, more important is what random items you can get for killing the royal guards who attack with cold. The treasure in the chests is just rubbish compared to this.
I had someone else than my thief try to open certain chests without success to make them respawn endlessly for experience and items.
"Protection from cold", cold resistance and luck will soften their cold attack.

[Guest]

Your'e right.
But at lvl 10, I was'n't able to take on them.
Well maybe my party just isn't the strongest.

[desepchun]

I got a couple of them down with level 10's, my robber was like 12th i think, wound up having to beacon out first chance I got. no way I could of handled them all.

now another question...How useful is the merchant skill? I've got my second group up to 10+ and have enough coin saved up for maybe one of them to get the skill, but is it worth the 6k?

[kmonster]

With the merchant skill you get the full price instead of the half price for selling items, if you sell a platin late armor characters with merchant skill will get 100,000 instead of 50,000 for example.

You might even consider making all characters merchants.
Since each shop visit takes one full day visiting shops several times in a row to make sure only your merchant sells the items isn't recommended.

You can buy all talents if you manage to travel through the vulcano cave but I think buying the merchant skill for everyone before is worth it.

[MT]

Hi first time posting here. A little lazy to register. Playing MM4 + MM5. The Cloud above the Dragon Tower is a real pain. Teleported off to avoid the fighting. Will have to return later (after attaining still higher levels!).

Anyway, I seem to be running into some problems, which some may already know of:

1. Northern Sphinx

I can't seem to open those sacrophages. The last time I tried, my knight with a strength of 250+ couldn't (right now he is 300+ but I haven't tried it again).

2. Southern Sphinx

The dungeon has a few secret areas that I find no access to.

3. Lack money

Experience is abound but money is sorely lacking. I found one way to make money: refill the Gemstone mines, mine, make armour and sell. This is detrimental to your gem stockpile, unless you use Sandro as a gem making machine (ie don't return his heart but keep going to him and kill him).

You might even consider making all characters merchants. [/b]

Very good idea. I always get it as soon as I can (even before selling any unwanted piece of equipment). Joe isn't difficult to reach; just don't go too far as to meet the Jousters. Right from the start I would keep saving up cash and get it for my members (till all 6 do). Plenty of money from the Dwarven Mines. That piddly sup of 6000 gp per member is nothing compared to how much you can save with the skill.

You can buy all talents if you manage to travel through the vulcano cave but I think buying the merchant skill for everyone before is worth it.[/b]

That is only useful for some book or fountain at the Darkside in one of the towers (Western?) where (all) your secondary skills are stripped but gains permanent levels.

[Guest]

YAY!! :)
Just finished the whole game.
The dungeon of death is a pain though...
Best Might and Magic I've played :)

[levethian]

:angry:

Ggnnngn. Most frustrated. I bought a windows-98se based computer especially to cease these problems, but alas, this game still doesn't work.

I have 3 copies of World of Xeen now, 1x 1999 CD-version from Ebay, 1 from the "Ultimate RPG Archives" and 1 from The M&M Millenium edition - and they won't work on my system. Every time I try I get the message:

:sos:

Illegal operation - invalid page exception:

Fault location: 0028:CO2A7BEB
Faulting Component: IFSMGR(04) + 000092FF
Interrupts in service: None

:sos:

Swords of Xeen works perfectly - so I assume it's because of the CD requirement (which is ludicrous for such a small game in MB terms).

Anyway, annoyed. Does anyone know what the error means? Is there any way around this? Maybe if I buy 10 more copies?...

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

hey, I'm having a problem with the animations in this download.. I haven't tried it in months, but I remember this:

Upon leaving castleview and trying to reenter, the game freezes. It only freezes when one of those talking animated characters pops up.. I tried downloading it somewhere else though, but it froze anytime I entered a building and opened up the shop window or where ever it was.

I guess if I cant count on this download, I have to buy a whole new Might and Magic 4 because the one I bought 7 months ago had a broken disc and I didnt find out about it until recently.

Dosbox is a very useful tool though, it gave me hope of playing these games again. You can run most of them on windows 98 or lower.. i first played Swords of Xeen on a 98, but we upgraded to 2000 and lost the 98 disc.

Can anyone help me out..? maybe offer a copy of Might and Magic IV (Disc 3) if you're generous ;)

thanks
-GWA

[Elward]

Ensure you have the correct sound card listed in Xeen's setup and the right sound settings in DOSBox.conf.

-EE

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

Im sure this has nothing to do with sound, my sound works perfectly

[Fenril]

Damn :\ :(


I REALLY wanted to try this one, specially from what I heard about the gameplay depth and size. But getting it this month on amazon or something is not in my budget.

Bad luck for me for coming in late I guess :\

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

I have no idea why they're charging people for it, the game is dead, the new distributors aren't distributing these titles, and they're beginning a new series... I'll have to see if Im allowed to upload my copies of 1,2,3 and 5 for everyone to enjoy.

[The Fifth Horseman]

Actually, CD-Access is not selling World of Xeen anymore.

[Tom Henrik]

This game is once again Abandoned, and may be downloaded from the site. :)

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

Im gonna dig up some of my floppies to upload.. I have all 5, I might even have a copy of Inherit the Earth somewhere, fun game.

[Guest]

Hi,

I have tried to play this game. But everytime (in the very beginning of the game) when I go to the tarven and "Sign In", the game would hang. I suspect it will be the same whenever I visit blacksmith or whatever shops.

I have tried playing with VDM sound (on go.bat) and had tried Dosbox (with and without sound). But it always hang at the same place. BTW, my laptop is running xp.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 5 2006, 03:39 AM) 259486</div>
Hi,

I have tried to play this game. But everytime (in the very beginning of the game) when I go to the tarven and "Sign In", the game would hang. I suspect it will be the same whenever I visit blacksmith or whatever shops.

I have tried playing with VDM sound (on go.bat) and had tried Dosbox (with and without sound). But it always hang at the same place. BTW, my laptop is running xp.

Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
[/b]

Erm, nevermind. Problem solved :P

[Drawkcab Monk]

First of all, I'd like to mention that Warrior mode is the standard mode and Adventurer is the easy mode, in which enemies do less damage, take more damage, and are in lesser numbers. I highly recommend playing Warrior mode as it's much more balanced (unless you want to play easy).

About running it on DOS-Box, if you set the CPU cycles to 8000, the game runs at exactly the speed it's supposed to (if you set it to 8000 BEFORE running Xeen.exe then the music will play at the speed it's supposed to as well, with some framerate slowdown when there are a bunch of enemies on the screen). Anything higher than 8000 will make it run slower than the default CPU cycles.

I bought it with the Might and Magic IV: Special Edition with music set to Roland GS (IMO, it's WAAAY better than the quality of soundblaster music setting, and this is on a Soundblaster card) and sound set to Soundblaster Pro, and it runs flawlessly under DOS-box. I'm up to the Great Northern Tower on the Darkside and I have yet to encounter any of the fatal errors, freezing, or doom glitches you guys have spoken of (on any sound setting).

And now to my question, how do you answer to the Chalice in the great northern tower? I've tried all the obvious answers, and now I'm stumped (I figured out all the vowelless riddles thought).

[Guest_yog_*]

:wallbash:
Hi there,
Pls help me if possible.
I am playing the game " Clouds of Xeen" more than 5 years.
No result.
I am so unhappy.
Pls help me with any (if) walktrough , tips, cheats because
even yog will reach 200 years withour finishing this nice game.
Any Help wilcomed.
God Bless YOU!

:kosta: thankful yog :kosta:

[kmonster]

Here are some sources of information:

http://www.rpgclassics.com/shrines/pc/mm4_5/index.shtml
You can also download the official manual and cluebook for MM4 at http://www.replacementdocs.com.
At www.gamefaqs.com you can also find some walkthroughs.

Some additional hints from me:

- you can save and reload at nearly any time. Do so. Save after each successful battle. Reload when a party member died or got poisoned or something else you can't cure immediately without having to pay in a temple.
- The items you find are random. So you can save before searching something or getting a quest reward and reload to get something more useful. An obsidian weapon is more far useful than a ring which grants 30 electric resistance which only helps against electricity using enemies for example.
- Use the fountains once you found them. Once the town fountains are free they can help a lot.
- Use the buffing spells like heroism and shield. "day of protection" and "day of sorcery" are a very useful shortcut. Just buff your party in the morning so that the spells last long.
- "protection from elements" is extremely useful. Cast it even after "day of protection" if you are going to face hard enemies using this element. Monsters doing up to 25 fire damage can't hurt the party if the fire protection was cast by a level 10 caster. And if shield is also cast then even more damage is ignored.
- against enemies without missile weapons in towns you can use the shoot or cast-jump-shoot or cast-jump tactic if you have the jump spell to hurt them without getting hit.
- If you meet some enemies you can't defeat physically it might be wise to explore another part of the game first.
- A way to gain many XP and great items: If you plunder some chests in castle Burlock a Royal guard attacks (doing cold damage). But you'll also get attacked if you only try to open the chests, so if you have someone else than your thief or ninja try to open the chest without success, you can make make them appear endlessly and kill them for XP and items. If you have buffed up your party and used protection from cold they shouldn't be too hard. But keep in mind that you have to fight your way out of the castle without a chance for resting unless you have a "Lloyd's Beacon" spell.

The procedure before too hard dungeons: Set a "Lloyd's Beacon" there. Start at at the nightshadow town well at 5 o'clock early in the morning, so that the effects will last for nearly 24 hours. Drink for gaining the 10 levels, cast the buffing spells afterwards and teleport to the other town through the mirrors to get all the other buffs and refresh your HP and MP. After using the "Lloyd's Beacon" spell again your party should be fully buffed and have more than full magic and hit points and at least 22 hours time untill the buffs run out.
If you haven't freed the town wells or are going to face extremely hard enemies you have to use additional wells in the wilderness. The jump and the teleport spells might help avoiding to waste too much time outside. Moving, spellcasting or pressing the space key takes only 1 minute inside but 10 minutes outside.

Use the "Lloyd's Beacon" spell to travel back and forth between the area you are exploring and a save town.

Create a strong party. You'll want to have:
- 1 barbarian, since barbarian is the class which does the most physical damage by far
- 1 thief or ninja
- 1 archer or mage for mage spells
- 1 druid or ranger for druidic spells
- 1 cleric or paladin for cleric spells
- 1 paladin or knight for being able to use all weapons you find.

A suggestion for a party containing all races and no double-class:
Half-orc Barbarian
Half-orc Knight
Dwarf Thief
Elf Archer
Gnome Cleric
Human Ranger

With a little patience you should be able to roll good stats which will make the beginning of the game easier.

[Guest]

^ IMO the most balanced party choice is the basic Paladin, Knight/Barbarian, Sorceror, Ranger, Ninja/Robber, Cleric.

Nevermind my question about the chalice, I figured it out soon after asking (I could've sworn I tried Chalice with no consonants, twice)

Also it turns out 7000 CPU cycles is best, same speed as 8000 with less slowdown.
Frameskip is bad, it just makes everything choppy and doesn't really help at all. If you're using dosbox use Ctrl+F12 until it reads 7000 CPU cycles in the blue bar.

Another question, my characters are now level 55 and I have 4 million gold in the bank, how long is that going to last me once the real training starts?

[Grand Wizzard Alamar]

Everyone who plays this game should buy the Might and Magic Compendium, it introduces the story behind 1 and 2, and is a walkthrough for 3, 4 and 5 whenever you might need any assistance. It also has complete stats on every monster, every skill and every spell. And you can get it for about $10 (about 300+ pages).
I'll also add that it includes a very exclusive interview with JVC about all his games up to 1995 (the year before Heroes). This guy has 2 games in the CGW hall of fame (cool).

[Guest_yog_*]

Hi there
Pls help me if possible.
I am playing Clouds of Xeen , but my right hand hero - Cleric
who is 88 years old starts to die without any battle.
All others are 88 years old but still healthy.
I ressurect him but after 1-2 minutes he again died.
Whats wrong?
My party is about 7-8 level already.
More over I have 2 cheats , but they do not work.
If volunteers available I am ready to transfer them above cheats.

Of course my deepest thanks to all members who helperd me.
:)
Thankful yog
:kosta:

[kmonster]

Does you cleric have a stat which is lower than all the others' stats ? Maybe raising this stat with an item or giving a permanent boost might help in this case. (just an idea)
You have to keep an eye on game time, it might even get worse if your characters reach 100.

[keithwiggins]

88 years old??
I haven't played Clouds because one of my disks is broken, but on Terra the game goes by much faster.. unless you already beat it?

[Stapleton]

I've been running the game on an old laptop that was given to me. Everything seems ok, except that I can't turn the volume down, its soo loud.

Once I get to "start a new game" and type in a name I get dumped back to DOS.

I've read through all 16pages of this thread and haven't seen a similar issue.
Anywho, I bet its a great game. I thought this was the one from my childhood but it was M&M3 that I always played.

[keithwiggins]

I love 3.
So, I think you shouldn't worry about the volume, but stick with the same game until you finish (no need for a second one). Try reinstalling also, that actually works alot.

[Guest]

Anyone plan on uploading M&M3 Isles of Terra?

I sure miss that classic but I haven't been able to find it anywhere!

[RichardMV]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 23 2006, 05:14 PM) 263153</div>
Anyone plan on uploading M&M3 Isles of Terra?

I sure miss that classic but I haven't been able to find it anywhere!
[/b]

ditto... Please, it's the only one of the early MM games that I can't find anywhere. If I do happen upon it, though, I'll make sure to let people know (if it's a legal download).

[Roland of Gilead]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Richard Veysey @ Oct 23 2006, 09:43 PM) 263160</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 23 2006, 05:14 PM) 263153
Anyone plan on uploading M&M3 Isles of Terra?

I sure miss that classic but I haven't been able to find it anywhere!
[/b]

ditto... Please, it's the only one of the early MM games that I can't find anywhere. If I do happen upon it, though, I'll make sure to let people know (if it's a legal download).
[/b][/quote]

This is the Guest fellow from the above post ^^.

Just to clarify...I was only inquiring about this if it's legal. If MM3 is not considered abandonware yet, please disregard my desperate plea! :ok:

[Shrek]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Oct 23 2006, 05:14 PM) 263153</div>
Anyone plan on uploading M&M3 Isles of Terra?

I sure miss that classic but I haven't been able to find it anywhere!
[/b]
According to the Oldwarez list (http://www.abandonia.com/main.php?nav=awlist) (type "magic" in the "Game name contains:" box and hit "Search!" buttom) it belongs to an ESA member but it's over 15 years old and so its considered "abandonware". Ask for it at the Requests (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showforum=3) subforum...

[The Fifth Horseman]

It has been asked for, and I believe I posess a working copy.

[Roland of Gilead]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Oct 24 2006, 12:41 PM) 263269</div>
It has been asked for, and I believe I posess a working copy.
[/b]

I noticed your most recent response to the M&M3 request and I'm looking forward to it.

You sir, are a lifesaver.

[The Fifth Horseman]

You sir, are a lifesaver.[/b]
No, merely a homicidal maniac. ;)

At any rate, the archive is now on the server.

Anyone interested in applying to write a review for the game can send a PM to Kosta on the subject.

[jotty]

This game is soooo awesome, LOL.
I just finished it in 2 days :blink: :blink:
killed mega dragon too :titan:

[jotty]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jotty @ Nov 2 2006, 03:45 PM) 265030</div>
This game is soooo awesome, LOL.
I just finished it in 2 days :blink: :blink:
killed mega dragon too :titan:
[/b]

i trained most of my party members to ~ 100 with all my $$$
and give all the free level bonus to the cleric/sorceror
so i ended up having a level 150 cleric/sorceror
and buff at the fountain in darkside for 2500 hp, +1000 SP, +100 might and the well near there for the 600 resist, then use beacon to the well on the dragon cloud for 50 level and then buff the party with day of protection/day of sorcery then use beacon to mega dragon

noone in my party die :sneaky:

[jotty]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jotty @ Nov 2 2006, 03:52 PM) 265031</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jotty @ Nov 2 2006, 03:45 PM) 265030
This game is soooo awesome, LOL.
I just finished it in 2 days :blink: :blink:
killed mega dragon too :titan:
[/b]

i trained most of my party members to ~ 100 with all my $$$
and give all the free level bonus to the cleric/sorceror
so i ended up having a level 150 cleric/sorceror
and buff at the fountain in darkside for 2500 hp, +1000 SP, +100 might and the well near there for the 600 resist, then use beacon to the well on the dragon cloud for 50 level and then buff the party with day of protection/day of sorcery then use beacon to mega dragon

noone in my party die :sneaky:
[/b][/quote]

oh, and its in warrior mode ^_^

[kmonster]

@Jetty: You don't need those quotes and double quotes. We understand your posts even without.

The magadragon is a darkside monster, you can even beat it without a party member dying when you play darkside alone in warrior mode. (like I did :D)
You don't need the clouds area or the area with the +50 level well you can only access after finishing the darkside main game for doing so.

Playing the whole game in just two days sounds incredible to me, even if you played 48 hours nonstop you'd have less than 15 minutes to for each 16*16 area including the fights and quests if you go through the whole game.
Even 2 days only for the WoX bonus areas would be quite fast.

What party composition did you choose ?

[jotty]

I used the default party they gave me. Hehe, i didnt know the mega dragon is killable. haha
thats why I was so excited ^_^
anyone got any tricks to make $$ once you run out of training cash

[yoga]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jotty @ Nov 3 2006, 04:38 AM) 265086</div>
I used the default party they gave me. Hehe, i didnt know the mega dragon is killable. haha
thats why I was so excited ^_^
anyone got any tricks to make $$ once you run out of training cash
[/b]

Hi, amigo,
With all my respect to You I do not believe any human is able to
complete the game WoX for 2 days.:)
Even You are using all available tips, cheats or/and walkthrougs.
You tricking us , ah?

I, the stupid yog, is playing Clouds of Xeen more than 2 Years without any
progress.
Moreover my far right character is 104 years old and dies non stop . so .. rats:((

Greetings

yog
:brain:

[kmonster]

A way to make money which should work until the end :
You can pay to make for the mines on darkside to respawn their emeralds and mine them as often as you want.
Afterwards you can go to the tents and have some armor made from the emeralds collected.
The most expensive one is worth more than 100,000 GP,if you save before and only accept the most valuable one you can save time.
But you don't need levels that high anyway...

In Clouds of Xeen you can revert unnatural aging by visiting the four druids, but natural aging can't be reverted. You've to be careful with your time, any shop,inn,temple, whatever requires 1 day to visit, each outside move 10 minutes, you can save time with teleport,jump or other travel spells. Don't press the "space" key when drinking from wells.

[Roland of Gilead]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ Oct 25 2006, 02:40 PM) 263537</div>
You sir, are a lifesaver.[/b]
No, merely a homicidal maniac. ;)

At any rate, the archive is now on the server.

Anyone interested in applying to write a review for the game can send a PM to Kosta on the subject.
[/b]

I noticed this game is still marked as "Under Review" in the request forums. Has a decision been made to put M&M3 on the abandonia server yet? I'd love to play this classic again if it's all good on the legal end.

[Guest]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Yog7 @ Nov 5 2006, 05:53 PM) 265470</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(jotty @ Nov 3 2006, 04:38 AM) 265086
I used the default party they gave me. Hehe, i didnt know the mega dragon is killable. haha
thats why I was so excited ^_^
anyone got any tricks to make $$ once you run out of training cash
[/b]

Hi, amigo,
With all my respect to You I do not believe any human is able to
complete the game WoX for 2 days.:)
Even You are using all available tips, cheats or/and walkthrougs.
You tricking us , ah?

I, the stupid yog, is playing Clouds of Xeen more than 2 Years without any
progress.
Moreover my far right character is 104 years old and dies non stop . so .. rats:((

Greetings

yog
:brain:
[/b][/quote]

yes, this is my 4th time beating the game
i played it more than 10 years ago when clouds of xeen was on 5.25" disk.
:)