Civilization

[Kosta]

Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review and Download (if available) (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/14)

[xndr2181]

I'm so glad this game was posted, I've been looking for it for years. I use to play this game on my dad's computer when I was little for hours. I remember this game owned a good percentage of my year as a fifth grader. This game is so simple yet so amazingly addictive. The only thing I ever disliked about this game, is that for a while I really just wanted to build up my cities, and not be bothered by other countries. Oh well, thanks for renewing the old memories.
-Sean

[Havell]

If you want to focus on city-building just play as the Aztecs on the real world map, you should be able to kill the Americans within the first few turns, after that you have all of north and south America to yourself, the other players don't seem to go to America so you can attack when you are ready.

P.S. Wooo! 200 posts!

[xndr2181]

If you want to focus on city-building just play as the Aztecs on the real world map, you should be able to kill the Americans within the first few turns, after that you have all of north and south America to yourself, the other players don't seem to go to America so you can attack when you are ready.
Wow, that's really smart, thanks a lot man,
-Sean

[Unknown Hero]

I think this is the best strategy game ever (except Civ III). I've learned a lot from it and I want to recomend it to anyone (who has at last 10% of brain!).

[wormpaul]

Originally posted by Stroggy@Oct 7 2004, 01:04 PM
I already played the original game (borrowed from a friend)
Do you think its worth it, or will it become boring?
Civ 1 is a very good game...

If you like the other parts this won`t be boring...you only need a lot of time for it :D

[Eagle of Fire]

Civilization is always boring after you complete a few games in a row, but then just take a break and it's always as fun as the first time to come back to it. :)

[gdp2000]

Originally posted by Unknown Hero @ Oct 7 2004, 11:17 PM
There are 10 bilions new options in those two expansions. You should apsolutely buy it. :OK:
Can someone please tell me at least the most important of the billion differences. There is no civ 3 thread.

c ya
gdp2k

[Stroggy]

Yeah I would like to ehar what these expansions exactly change (except for a few new countries with a unique unit and different stats)
I know the first expansion includes multiplayer... but I only play multipayer in fps games.
Its more comfortable to lose in a game with a lot of players than a game with maximum 4 or 5 players... because if you make stupid msitakes they really shine out there (and i'm a bad strategy player :) )
Thing is in the last few months, in responce to the very emotional and depressing time me and my family are going through now , I quit being my usual self (only occasionally buying a new game) and started buying a lot of games.
Now I have quite a bundle of games and i haven't finished them.

[Guest]

Abadonia rulez! At least I have found the Civilization 1! I seeked it about half hours...

Sorry, I can't speak English very well...

[Yamcha]

Civilization 1 is a very cool game.but i prefere the windoes version :OK:

[Unknown Hero]

Is there windows version of civ1 at all?

[Sebatianos]

There sure is, but I still prefer the dos one!

[MasterP]

I had(still have, although the discs are ancient and non-working) this game on a 486 about ten years ago. Awesome :).

Ended up giving the 486 to my grandparents, and they still have it, amazingly. And the game works too. Pretty nice to play on those long visits.

[Unknown Hero]

Believe me or not, but when I was 3 I used to draw picture of civ1 at my kindergarten!
And this is the game from which I learned a lot about Earth and many civilizations! :OK:
Great game!

[Stroggy]

Originally posted by Unknown Hero@Oct 31 2004, 01:51 PM

And this is the game from which I learned a lot about Earth and many civilizations!
Me too.
Scored me a plus point for history a few years back (actually a lot of years back) since I was the onlyone who knew what Irrigation was.

ofcoarse its not that good a source... since you could be led to believe that the Pyramids were built in Moskow by Lenin in 500 BC :D

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by Unknown Hero@Oct 30 2004, 10:04 PM
Is there windows version of civ1 at all?
yes ifound it if you searching for it mail me ithink is abw

[Rogue]

I have it, but always had some problem with it. Game crashes from time to time. (There was a CD couple years ago with Civilization and Colonization on it, with both DOS and windows versions)

[Yamcha]

I found it, and I will ask if this version can be uploade to the site.

[Unknown Hero]

Yeah! Go ask admins! I would love to see Civ1 for Win on the site! :OK:

[Matux]

Cheers, it would be deadly if you could

[wormpaul]

Doesnt we have CIV 1 on site??

That`s such a true classic :brain: :brain:

[Yamcha]

Originally posted by wormpaul@Nov 16 2004, 03:47 PM
Doesnt we have CIV 1 on site??

That`s such a true classic :brain: :brain:
We are talking about Win version

[Rogue]

I'll upload it tonight.

Anyone care for win version of colonization too?

[Sebatianos]

Originally posted by Anubis@Nov 16 2004, 06:00 PM
Anyone care for win version of colonization too?
I'd love it, this version of mine keeps shuting down from time to time!

[Rogue]

I had some problems playing it my self, but did not try it in ages. Will find my 'explorer' disk and upload it.

[Rogue]

I uploaded both Civilization and Colonization for windows and both manuals (as dos version also are missing these). Can you sebatianos contact Kosta (I also will), as most of the stuff I uploaded is still on FTP server. (Yes, I know, he's busy, and :smurf: is trying to get his name in Guinness Book of Records LOL )

More stuff will follow. :hello:

[Rogue]

Good job! :OK:

Can you now move stuff from my folder on FTP to site? :woot: LOL

(I know that praising somebody job might get his attention :bleh: :tomato: )

[Tom Henrik]

We are still discussing it.

It takes some time for all the admins to agree ;)

[Rogue]

Originally posted by Tom Henrik@Nov 17 2004, 08:29 AM
We are still discussing it.

It takes some time for all the admins to agree ;)
Who should we bribe? LOL

CivWin and ColWin are installation folders for these games. Games should be installed before playing.


I got some oldies that are rare on the net. Interested in uploading them to the site, or should I wait till you guys agree to get them? (got the game James pond 2, someone was looking for it, then pc version of Turrican and couple other amiga ports on pc) LOL

[danron1376]

Great game! Sid Meier is a genius!

[Hammer]

I was wondering about the 'civcheat' and 'civhack' files. I took them out, but still receive 30,000 gold at the 2000 B.C. save. I beat this game (only once) on Emperor level, back in the day. I'd like to try it again without cheating. :wall:
Any thoughts? Anyone else having the same problem?

[Guest]

civcheat.com file completely changes the civ.exe file i believe. to restore it, delete the civ.exe file and rename the original.exe file to civ.exe. I'm not sure whether just using original.exe directly w/o touching civ.exe works or not, but it should.

[Ant]

You must run Original.exe - this is original version of Civilization without cheating

[Ant]

Civ HINTS

[IMPORTANT: first thing to do is set the "end of turn" option on, as
many of the following will be difficult to do without it]

1: Settlers - settlers can build roads, irrigate, build railroads, or
control pollution or mine all in one turn. After all your pieces have
been moved (or in the case of roads/railroads where you wish to use
said road/rr, before) click onto the settlers again, and hit r/i/p again.
Repeat as many times as necessary for said operation on square (the
computer will not let the settlers do anything else once one improvement
has been completed)

2: Ships - ships have interesting effects on piece movements, and can
be used very advantageously during the game. Build enough ships to space
them their movement allocation apart between continents, including being
docked in cities. (This is important!!!) When you want to move a piece
from Spot A to spot B on another continent and you have this convoy
setup, you can do the following: Move piece into first city with docked
ship, and have piece go into sentry mode (do this for all pieces to
be moved) and then activate ship (docked ship can be in sentry mode,
it will not affect movement points) move ship out and then onto next
ship in line, then activate that ship. (It will automatically take over
all the pieces as passengers it can hold) move it onto the next and
so on, until you dock into the destination city. Now, click into the
destination city, and activate *all* the pieces you just delivered (they'll
appear to be in sentry mode) and exit city. Voila, you now have *full*
movement points restored to all the pieces you've just delivered, effectively
getting two complete sets of movement points in one turn.

(Note: I figured this last part out when I was already using transports,
and have not yet gone back to discover whether trimerenes and sails
do the same, although I expect they work similarly)

This also works best with railroads, as then you can have a small military,
yet deploy them world-wide in one turn. It keeps the populace much happier
on the whole when you're running a democracy.

I've just finished a game at emporer level (Yes, Suleyman the Wise is
after Emporer Augustus at 140%:) wherein I had dominated the world by
2700 BC. (I'm going back to that point to see what my rating would have
been had I finished conquering everyone at that point, and whether it
would have been worth doing it instead of growing to 30+ million population
and launching a space ship, and building all the wonders (or stealing
them).

Strategies: Start and obtain bronze working, the wheel, alphabet, and
writing and literacy with science set as high as it takes to reduce
the advance to a minimum number of turns. (See trade advisor to set
the tax rates to obtain as much money as possible while gaining science
at the highest possible rate.) You want Literacy so that you can build
the Great Library Wonder, and gain any new advances made by others.
Writing allows you diplomats so that you can steal anyything you don't
find yourself first or gain through the Great Library, as well as force
meetings between yourself and rivals when peace is desirable (such as
you've just taken over a city, you have no defensivce units, and the
enemy is coming upon you)

Find your neighbors on the continent as quickly as possible
(I build to or three militias and send them searching, not bothering
to defend my city. If I loose, I prefer to do it in the first ten minutes,
not after devoting several days to a game) Build a phalanx as soon as
you obtain bronze working. Build a granary to allow your city to grow
as fast as possible. Once you reach a size of 4, you'll need a temple,
so build settlers to keep your city(ies) to a size of three until you
obtain ceremony. You'll want to get out of despotism as soon as you
hit about 5 in size, so you'll need code of laws and monarchy now. At
this point, maintenance will become a problem so you need currency and
trade (mathematics is in there also). By now, you should have taken
over *all* your neighbors (it's easiest to do this early, when no one
has built barracks and is fielding veteran phalanxes to guard them,
and even if they are, until they have city walls, chariots romp right
over them) Try to incorporate as many of these cities into your empire
as possible. Now you'll need navigation quickly, but build trimerenes
to investigate the surroundings quickly, and possibly make early contact.

Contact: make sure that you leave some of the cities of other civs
alive at this point, as you need them for trade. Generally, I leave
the capitals, and take over all the other cities, then remove the weakest
capitals and leave the largest three for trade purposes. (I'm of the
thought that your highest score will come from sending the spaceship
off).

This should be enough to make even the Emporer level fairly easy, although
it by no means is a full strategy. Other things are the following:

Pollution, large cities produce pollution with the discovery of the
automobile (cities size of ~20) with *no* production. Need mass transit
to offset this.
Recycling and mass transit combined allow for no pollution to be produced
with up to 62 resources.

Happiness - large cities will generally not have all happy people, so
to increase your score, build settlers and found cities of size 3 or
less with high luxuries at end of game (ie year before spaceship lands)
Also disband all bombers and nukes in a democracy (perhaps all military?)
before this occurs. Otherwise, a city of size 4 requires a temple, of
size 5 or 6 a marketplace for all citizens to be content.

Large cities (size 20 or more) are excellent sources of revenue for
extra-continent trade after you've established your three trade routes
for each city. Have high production cities (not necesarrily the largest
population) produce caravans, and (with rr) send them to the large city,
then across to the other continent to the *largest and most powerful*
of the remaining capitals. (I made over 110 coins per caravan sent,
built ~8 caravans a turn on this one continent) doing this, and my costs
were only 650 coins per turn. (My tax revenue was about 3000 coins per
turn) This allows you to buy all improvement for new cities befoore
the population even reaches 2, and gives it full trade routes also.
This is the quickest way to grow cities. (less than 70 years, 1840-1910
to go from size 1 to size 10-15) it also allows all production to center
in on a few cities, with the corresponding costs associated with those
improvements, while allowing the rest to concentrate on growing and
trade only.

[Unknown Hero]

Whoa! This is a wonderfull explanation! Thanks! :OK:

[Eagle of Fire]

1: Settlers - settlers can build roads, irrigate, build railroads, or
control pollution or mine all in one turn. After all your pieces have
been moved (or in the case of roads/railroads where you wish to use
said road/rr, before) click onto the settlers again, and hit r/i/p again.
Repeat as many times as necessary for said operation on square (the
computer will not let the settlers do anything else once one improvement
has been completed)The way I see this, it is both a bug and a cheat. Not something I would do.

[Bart Mortal]

I was not so much into strategy games before i started playing civilization. But after playing it, i find it more interesting to play civ1 than the latest versions of other games. Man! this is addictive. Hail Sid Meier!
This might be an easily noticed thing (but still to those who have not noticed), we can change the messages of the game by changing the messages as stored in the notepad files with names blurb(number)
P.S.:Thanx for ur strategies ant

[Psionicle]

Oh I remember this game.
It was the one who introduced me to th grand games of Cid Meier.

Civ 1 was great, hardly played any other game than that.
Civ 2 was great, I played it more times than the first one, but I kinda felt like something was missing.
Civ 3 Is my favorite, It's kinda easier, but I have become rather nostalgic lately.

[Guest]

I played the windows version of this game alot. But Civ II beats the crap out of this and Civ III.

[demon-croatia]

i learned alot from civilization but i learned more from local balkanian comic called- alan ford

[mongalong_x]

Hello, i downloaded civilisation I and tried to run the game by using the RUNME.EXE and CIV.EXE files, but everytime I get a MS-Dos window popping up with the same message..

C:\PROGRA~1\CIVIL~1\CIV.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\AUTOEXEC.NT The system file is not suitable for running MS-DOs and Microsoft Windows Applications. Choose 'Close' to terminate the application.

Does anyone else get this problem? If so, how do i fix it?

[wormpaul]

And for you also:

Welcome Mongalong X :OK:

[Eagle of Fire]

Very common problem.

Answer can be found here (http://www.abandonia.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2534).

[caesar007]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Jan 13 2005, 10:10 PM
1: Settlers - settlers can build roads, irrigate, build railroads, or
control pollution or mine all in one turn. After all your pieces have
been moved (or in the case of roads/railroads where you wish to use
said road/rr, before) click onto the settlers again, and hit r/i/p again.
Repeat as many times as necessary for said operation on square (the
computer will not let the settlers do anything else once one improvement
has been completed)The way I see this, it is both a bug and a cheat. Not something I would do.
yup i agree , this must be a cheat , this is not possible in civ 1 and not in the other civs either i think

if you play normal without cheat it is very difficult to do all this LOL and certainly not in 2700BC !!

for level 5 (emperor level ) you need luck too ,not just a good strategy , you need to make the right civ your friend and hope they won't attack you till you are ready , for a good game i recommend level 4 , it's very tough but you can win if you play it right

[caesar007]

k i have civ I and there is no multiplayer included , but i am wondering if there is one for civ I ? does anyone know ?

i think civ I is a great game , there are only 2 things that bug(ged) me about this game and that is you can't go over a certain number of units and that sucks sometimes and also unlike civ III if you stack units together and one unit loses the battle you lose all units stacked on that square , but except for that it's one of the best games ever !!

if anyone wants to share strategies or if you are a newbie and want some strategies to get started feel free to pm me

[Unknown Hero]

There isn't multiplayer available in Civ I, sorry! :OK:

[civilization Fan]

Big THX :)

[Guest]

The game is bugged. Around 1000 AD (may be linked to the date, or maybe to a certain technology advance, I'm not sure) my treasury jumps to 30k and doesn't drop below it. I can buy anything I like, I'll always have 30k gold. This absolutely ruins the game. Is there anyone who can provide a non-bugged version?
I'm NOT using a cheat, the game is bugged. :angry:

[Doc Adrian]

Originally posted by caesar007@Feb 22 2005, 03:26 PM
k i have civ I and there is no multiplayer included , but i am wondering if there is one for civ I ? does anyone know ?


They made a multiplayer version called Civnet..I don't know anyone that has a copy of it but I did the review for the manual at work years ago.

I would imagine it would be abandoned by now if someone could find it, but Civ 2 has a much better multiplayer system :)

[Robster]

Civ 2 has a much better multiplayer system
You can also use freeciv which is still very much alive and just like Civ2 :OK:
http://www.freeciv.org/index.php/Freeciv

[Guest]

I just confirmed this is an early release of the game (release 1 or 2, it had 5 before the windows version). Because of this, the debug coding is still in game. While I can't remember all the debug commands, one useful one is the following:

Hold down the <SHIFT> key while you type numbers 1 to 0 (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 0). This will reveal the entire map the next time you change your map view. A very useful cheat at the start of the game to see if your location is worth playing without having to devote time finding out. Then, once you are done being omnipotent, do it again to return to normal.

Yes it's a cheat, but one that's built in, so even starting the game with the original.exe command (bypassing the added cheats, like unlimited cash) you can still do it.

Just thought someone might like to know...

[Marek]

Originally posted by caesar007 @ Feb 16 2005, 03:35 PM

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire @ Jan 13 2005, 10:10 PM
1: Settlers - settlers can build roads, irrigate, build railroads, or
control pollution or mine all in one turn. After all your pieces have
been moved (or in the case of roads/railroads where you wish to use
said road/rr, before) click onto the settlers again, and hit r/i/p again.
Repeat as many times as necessary for said operation on square (the
computer will not let the settlers do anything else once one improvement
has been completed)The way I see this, it is both a bug and a cheat. Not something I would do.

yup i agree , this must be a cheat , this is not possible in civ 1 and not in the other civs either i think

if you play normal without cheat it is very difficult to do all this LOL and certainly not in 2700BC !!

for level 5 (emperor level ) you need luck too ,not just a good strategy , you need to make the right civ your friend and hope they won't attack you till you are ready , for a good game i recommend level 4 , it's very tough but you can win if you play it right

No I am pretty sure this is a bug...

If i Remember this correctly, its been a while...

You have a counter that says it takes two turns to build a road in a square...
As soon as you tell a settler to build a road, that counter gets incremented...

So, if you say build road then activate your settler then say build road again, then the counter sits on two and your road is built... 1 turn,

I don't use cheats and didn't even know there was a cheat available and I discovered this bug many years ago...

Never used it unless I was in real trouble though... :OK:

[Spoonman]

Oh so that's why, I never figured out that actually was a bug :D

[Marek]

So like...

did we get a windows version...

I have some questions regarding CivIII.

Is there a forum for that one? :whistling:

[irrelevantjet]

i play civIII all the time, maybe i can help :hello:

[Marek]

Ok I just hope the admin guys don't mind us talking about Civ III here...

I played it for the first time last night...
I played on the easiest difficulty setting of course and against quite a few oponents...

So anyway, I made contact with the Americans and a few few turns later they demanded technology from me. I said no and they decalred war.

I wasn't really worried because they weren't that powerful and their cities were quite far away from mine...

Anyway, a few turns later, the Iroquios (spelling?) with whom I had been friendly, signed a treaty with them of war against me, two turns after that, the Germans too etc etc etc...

eventually I was at war with 5 or 6 races and nothing short of giving them my cities could make peace...

My game was over and I had only just discovered Mathematics and this on the easiest difficulty...

So like what should I have done differently?

The other thing is...

How the Hel* do I remove an item from the build queue, without deleting the entire queue and redoing it, or alternatively, How do I add an item into a specific position in the build queue?

Thanx a million... :OK:

[irrelevantjet]

O.o wow.... they really pummelled you into the ground :D

for starters DON'T play against 8 people to begin with, even on easy dude, start with you and 2 other civs to get the hang of everything and work your way up

that used to happen to me, i used to get HAMMERED all the time.... basically just practise at the game and become rather fast, if your civilisation is small and crappy compared to everyone else they become rather "bully-ish", it swings both ways of course, a good tactic is picking on a small civ and forcing them to give you their technologies for peace :D

as for the queues.... i wouldn't know because i never tried something so fidgety :D :D :D it doesn't take THAT long to do the queue again :OK:

[Marek]

Yes I guess I must try playing against fewer opponents to start...

But I am one of those people who love playing the biggest possible map with the most opponents possible for the game with the longest possible duration...
Just adds more spice...

With regards to the build queue though,
Its annoying when you just discovered a new tech and you go to all your ten cities and add the two new available buildings into the build queue and then the following turn you bully your way into a free tech from a weaker Civ which also unlocks a building, one which you would rather build before the other two...

Then you have to redo the queue 10 times...

But no matter...

A small price to pay for such a great game! :OK:

[irrelevantjet]

Originally posted by Marek@Mar 23 2005, 10:38 AM
But I am one of those people who love playing the biggest possible map with the most opponents possible for the game with the longest possible duration...
Just adds more spice...
i was once one of those people, but until you're actually GOOD at this game you WILL be destroyed so fast it'll make your head spin :D

[Marek]

Well thats part of the problem I think... :D

I have a big head because I have always been pretty good at Civ1 so I just figured I'd be good at Civ III. :titan:

Man did they teach me right from wrong! :wall:

[Guest]

This is a bad good damn pretty game. I don't remeber how many times I deleted the game from my computer because of lack of time and after a short time looking for it agian. I remeber that I also was playing the game in my dreams. It has this capacity to chalenge all your neurons. I wouldn't suggest anybody to try it, it is really a bad drug.

[a9753]

I can't find CivWin. :cry:

[BeefontheBone]

If the build queues are anything like the governor preferences you can do them globally or by continent, but TBH I never use the build queue (unless maybe to remind myself to start a wonder after the current building) so I'm not sure on that one.

The AI on Civ 3 is VERY prone to ganging up on you if you get too far ahead of it - the trick is either to stay about 2nd and then suddenly gang up on the top player with one of the others, or to be so far ahead that it doesn't matter what they do. If you have plenty of civs in the game you need to get iron working straight away (I almost always research it first, possibly after Ceremonial Burial on top difficulties) and if possible beat up at least 1 of your neighbours very early on. A tip - if you capture a city of size 1 it's destroyed, but this doesn't happen to the enemy capital, so at the start of the game it's best to conquer whichever city is their capital first, then the one the palace gets moved to and so on in order to maximise the number of cities you get. You can often get a few cities out of them in exchange for a peace treaty once they're desperate, which is a good way to get little crappy ones on small islands for free - they'll still produce a BIT of research and increase your unit support limits without costing you anything (unless they get attacked by barbarians, anyway).

@a9753 - if you mean the windows version of Civ, we don't have it here since this is mainly a DOS games site. There's a link on the previous page you might wanna try out though.

[Christian IV]

O.o :sneaky:
i have resisted the Civ series, but yesterday I was reading
through the forum here on Colonization and i think i may
get sucked into the whirlpool of Civ I and II we will see,
it is a big big concept, and really a remarkable living
history experience also......ah my, another universe to
learn.....
:cry: :D

[Unknown Hero]

Originally posted by a9753@May 4 2005, 01:28 PM
I can't find CivWin. :cry:
I think that's because this game is made for DOS. Try running it in DOS. (if you are using WinXP, and the game doesn't work properly, try DOSBox. :OK:

[a9753]

I am searching for this vercion of civ:
http://www.bhlegend.com/php/show.php3?game=48

...enyone have it? Please mail it to me or post a link :kosta:


no email allowed ~~arete

[caesar007]

hhmm , yeah would be great if there was a civ 1 for windows .... i have the dos version on my other comp , but you can download civ 2 here and that works for windows ...... it's not exactly the same as civ 1 , but it's probably even better .... and you have multiplayer support with civ 2 .....

but if you find civ 1 for windows i am interested too .... cause my cd is not working that good anymore ....... sometimes a small part of the map has errors .....


btw ... i always have a problem with civ 1 at the end of the game ..... the max units problem .... usually around 90 units or so it says you can't build any new units till you disband older ones ?? ..... is there a patch for that ? it's very annoying when only one opponent is left and you can't launch a massive attack cause you have already like 40 cities and it won't let you build more units .....

[Christian IV]

:D
I did see a patch for opening the limits, on units today, but
i was looking at so many different files i am sorry i did not note
exactly where it was, there are great file resources at:

www.civfanatics.com

give that a try.
cheers
:hello:

[Unknown Hero]

I think that version of Civ1 is not original. It could be Call to power, never played that one. :OK:

[testdrive]

Originally posted by Guest @ Jan 2 2005, 01:06 AM
civcheat.com file completely changes the civ.exe file i believe. to restore it, delete the civ.exe file and rename the original.exe file to civ.exe. I'm not sure whether just using original.exe directly w/o touching civ.exe works or not, but it should.
thanks for the hint! :OK:

the best of this version is this original exe
it's version 474.01
that very rare ... :woot:

versio 474.01 is the only one were you can access the developer cheat also known as "SHIFT-56" (infact it's pressing
" % "
" ^ "
" t "
" t "

were it is located depending on your keyboard language.

this cheat allows to see the whole map when starting the game
and MORE:

F 1 * * Your enemies' military plans
* * * *(A-Attack, D-Defend, S-Settle, N-Naval).
* * * *It will even suggest some plans for you sometimes.
F 2 * * ???
F 3 *The Games Graphics (ALL actual screens!!!)
F 4 *??? Opponent Screens (be careful!)
F 5 *??? Opponent Screens (be careful!)
F 6 *??? Opponent Screens (be careful!)
F 7 *Civilization breakdown showing government type,
* * * *diplomatic status, population, treasury, tax rate,
* * * *# of mil units, # of cities, # of settlers,
* * * *amount of land (units unknown), and technology.
F 8 *Civilization PowerGraph + Replay.
* * * *Even if you don't want to cheat this is handy.
* * * *It can show you how well you're doing.
F 9 *shows numbers representing the attack points,
* * * *defense points and 3 of the cities
* * * *the computer uses to calculate battle,
* * * *on each continent (along with giving
* * * *the size of each continent in land squares).
* * * *
F10 *Shows complete world map

good civ1 discussion here -****
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16

[testdrive]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire@Jan 13 2005, 10:10 PM
1: Settlers - settlers can build roads, irrigate, build railroads, or
control pollution or mine all in one turn. After all your pieces have
been moved (or in the case of roads/railroads where you wish to use
said road r, before) click onto the settlers again, and hit 'r' or 'i' (irrigate) or 'p' (cleanup pollution) again.
Repeat as many times as necessary for said operation on square (the
computer will not let the settlers do anything else once one improvement
has been completed)The way I see this, it is both a bug and a cheat. Not something I would do.
if you are playing the game you use this cheat automatically -
it works with every civ1 version so you have no chance not to cheat.

otherwise you will have to wait ages within the game until you can irrigate swamps for example.
with this cheat it makes sense to play empereor level. :brain:

[Guest]

O.o
here's the original MANUAL
http://www.civfanatics.com/civ1manual.shtml

[Guest]

hhmm , yeah would be great if there was a civ 1 for windows .... if you find civ 1 for windows i am interested too...


...i found it :whistling: ...who can i mail it to to post to the abandonia collection?


lp :hello:
no email, pls

[george sims]

Originally posted by Guest@May 10 2005, 06:44 AM
hhmm , yeah would be great if there was a civ 1 for windows .... if you find civ 1 for windows i am interested too...
...i found it :whistling:
great! :OK: :cheers:

i hope it's online here in a while.

but CiV DOS (already here)
http://www.abandonia.com/games/14/Civilization_1.htm
is the ORiGiNAL
- i know that millions of people did play CiV DOS
and even at civilization.1 forums
just a few who did play WinCiv
http://forums.civfanatics.com/forumdisplay.php?f=16

if you have problems playing it with winXP
try
DOSBox
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/



1. The 'original' archgame-of-strategy CiV.1 for DOS
(~1991) (5 different exe - versions 474.01 ... 05)

2. Civilization for Windows (developed for windows 3.11)
(aka "CivWin" & "Civ4Win" & "WinCiv" - some different versions - 1.1. and so on)

3. CivNet (~1993)
( created for windows 3.11 / win'95 - 16bit; some version updates )
(Internet & LAN Multiplayer possible (...up to 8 players at once)

[A. J. Raffles]

Originally posted by george sims @ May 16 2005, 08:59 PM

Originally posted by Guest @ May 10 2005, 06:44 AM
hhmm , yeah would be great if there was a civ 1 for windows .... if you find civ 1 for windows i am interested too...
...i found it :whistling:
great! :OK: :cheers:

i hope it's online here in a while.
It's only original games, remember? And unless I interpret that ':whistling:' smiley wrong, "Guest" didn't actually buy the game...

[Doc Adrian]

if you like them both and want to shop around I own the Explorer CD and love it.

Got Civ 1 for windows and dos
and Colonization for windows and dos

let me tell ya, I always did like the Dos version alot better though

[civfan]

Originally posted by Doc Adrian @ May 17 2005, 12:17 AM
...
I always did like the Dos version alot better though
:OK: :kosta: :hello:

[Guest]

great game.
thanks.

[Miso.Soup]

Anyone hre who knows how to get around the copy-protection in the latest version of civdos ? cause I patched mine and I cant have the manual around e all the time, yet I always lose my warriors cause of that stupid quiz....

[Eagle of Fire]

How about downloading the game from this site instead? ;)

[efthimios]

Funny thing is that this site also has the manual. :D

[Miso.Soup]

Is this version patched ?
And I have downloaded the manual, but when I´m travelling with my laptop I paly Civ in dosmode where I don´t have access to .pdf.
And I won´t print all those pages, printer accessoire costs money...

[BeefontheBone]

you can get pdf readers for dos

[yippee-i-o]

LMAO.
those n00bees - always a fun-bunch. :D

[Miso.Soup]

Originally posted by BeefontheBone@May 28 2005, 04:46 PM
you can get pdf readers for dos
I cant exit the game while playing. And I dont want to save and exit just to look up every half hour just for some stupid quiz which I wont even know if it is right cause it are never the same two...

[efthimios]

So, you mean the version that is here is not cracked? I haven't tried it myself since I never got to like Civilization 1. Love the rest though. :blink:

[BeefontheBone]

the one on here is cracked - 's why EoF suggested he get this one instead

[R2D2reloaded]

i found
Scenarios and Maps for Civilization1
here:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=118661
...big landmasses...
:woot:

[R2D2reloaded again]

and HERE :sos:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=104554

[Guest]

Play the barbarians on a big map
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php...701&postcount=3 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=2805701&postcount=3)
savegame

[TradaPIB]

Hey Goldberg, you found this place too..

All I can say is that Civ 1 is the best game I have ever played. I just finished a nfoc (night full of civilization) and every game feels like my first.

What can I say? It's totally amazing. I'm even considering buying a personalised shirt stating: '[civilization one forever]'

Wouldn't that just be cool-tastic?

[Guest]

You may need the manual, unless you have memorized all the tech advances and can get past the security questions.

[Guest]

It is possible to beat the game on EMPEROR before 1000 BC

Start on the "EARTH" map, with the germans, 3 civilizations.
With germans, you always get a white civ and a green civ to start with you. Make sure you get the one with babylonians and romans.
With your settler, move down and left to Italy and conquer Rome with your settler. (no soldiers can be built in 5 turns). Russians will pop up 3 squares up and 2 squares down in spain. Conquer moscow. There two civs gone. only babylonians left. Build a city beside some rivers and forests, set tax to 0 and science to 100. discover the wheel as fast as possible. build 2 chariots, conquer babylon. it should be around 2000 bc now. Using the two chariots, hunt down the zulus. If you're lucky, you can beat them by 1000 BC. Score: 1200 Percent: 176%

[Guest]

Originally posted by Guest@Jun 8 2005, 01:57 AM
It is possible to beat the game on EMPEROR before 1000 BC

Start on the "EARTH" map, with the germans, 3 civilizations.
With germans, you always get a white civ and a green civ to start with you. Make sure you get the one with babylonians and romans.
With your settler, move down and left to Italy and conquer Rome with your settler. (no soldiers can be built in 5 turns). Russians will pop up 3 squares up and 2 squares down in spain. Conquer moscow. There two civs gone. only babylonians left. Build a city beside some rivers and forests, set tax to 0 and science to 100. discover the wheel as fast as possible. build 2 chariots, conquer babylon. it should be around 2000 bc now. Using the two chariots, hunt down the zulus. If you're lucky, you can beat them by 1000 BC. Score: 1200 Percent: 176%
or you may try civfanatics'

Space Race Contest
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=113563

to show
how GOOD you really are...

best player did it in the year 1920 BC at chieftain level.

[blastradius14]

Originally posted by Guest@Jun 8 2005, 01:57 AM
It is possible to beat the game on EMPEROR before 1000 BC

Start on the "EARTH" map, with the germans, 3 civilizations.
With germans, you always get a white civ and a green civ to start with you. Make sure you get the one with babylonians and romans.
With your settler, move down and left to Italy and conquer Rome with your settler. (no soldiers can be built in 5 turns). Russians will pop up 3 squares up and 2 squares down in spain. Conquer moscow. There two civs gone. only babylonians left. Build a city beside some rivers and forests, set tax to 0 and science to 100. discover the wheel as fast as possible. build 2 chariots, conquer babylon. it should be around 2000 bc now. Using the two chariots, hunt down the zulus. If you're lucky, you can beat them by 1000 BC. Score: 1200 Percent: 176%
THIS does not ring true as the starting locs are often random, and one of them may pop up in America after you kill that person. That, and a person who has a forest can build a warrior in less than 5 turns. Like the romans, for example...

One neat thing to know is that Barbarians will not appear on the map until you have at least one city. If you want to waste lots of time you can explore with that one settler until you find a cavalry or chariot and then walk that settler straight to china, discover map making and masonry, and go build your capital on an island or on Austrailia, and you won't ever have to worry about the computer killing you. You will have like 50 units from no where, giving you enough time to fight someone off if they manage to attack you. Horribly cowardly tactics, but I was bored at the time. To get rid of your old capital, change the terrain under it to a forest and make everyone not produce food. Horrible? Sure, but who cares. You are god in this game.

Why did they make civwin so much crappier in appearance than Civ1? Civnet looks like civwin and is not much better. If you want a multiplayer civ game play Civ2. They have a Civ1 scenario on Civfanatics, but there is something wrong with it...

[blastradius14]

C'mon you guys, the quizzes are simple stuff! Ooooh, what does Robotics come with? I DON'T KNOW! IT MAKES MY BRAIN HURT! Use common sense people, figure it out. Hahahahhaha!

Sorry about that :bleh:

[blastradius14]

I just have to ask: Is the reason this game is allowed to stay online because (it appears) someone modified the french version to english?

I have noticed several discrepancies in the game straying from the original.

[Stroggy]

I think this version was modified, I remember the game I downloaded here had a pretty rascist joke in it at one point, but that version may have been replaced.

[Grnik]

My favourite games of AlL times!!! Tens of thousands of hours spent on this one and on Civ 2!!! I'll start playing it again! My high score was 3265 points with half a billion population and 372%. I haven't met anyone with a better score to day (I'm not bragging guys I just want to know your scores:)). Finishing the game fast is not the point though. Play it in a huge map with as many civilizations as possible.

[Mercury]

I hate civilization
My personal opinion

[blastradius14]

You hate Civ? Is it too old for you? Civ3 spoil you? Or can you not sit there for hours clicking away with unfathomable powers of patience?

Tell us the games you play and let us poke our noses at it :bleh:

Be more specific. I hate winciv, simply because they ruined the graphics :D

[Mercury]

I hate civ because i don't like that kind of games where i need to think how to do that how to do this, it's boring i like duke nukem 3d, doom, blood.... :OK:
No ofence

[blastradius14]

Get a SNES and play smashtv. Or an emulator... its even MORE mindless than doom.

[Mercury]

Nice and what it s a SNES?

[A. J. Raffles]

Super Nintendo Entertainment System, I think. A type of console, anyway.

[Mercury]

ok thanks

[blastradius14]

Yeah, its a great console. For certain games its awesome, and I have yet to see pc games to replace them :OK:

I wouldn't suggest buying one if you have never had one however.

[Shred]

love civ and especially civ1 since so many pleasant memories are linked to it.

[blastradius14]

This game is one that I shall never get tired of.

Ever get smashed in emperor by enemy armors when you haven't even discovered gunpowder? The key: have a sucky start in the desert at the bottom of the map. Sheesh, a choice between tundra, desert and mountain.

[Konstantinos]

I don't remember how many hours in my life I spent playing CIV1. I enjoyed every second of it!

[blastradius14]

Ever made yourself the barbarians? The game runs funky if you do.

In order to do this, you must first make sure the barbarians have captured and kept someone's city. Second you need one of the two cheat programs I have seen that let you do this.

Why is it you always have to cheat to be the barbarians?

[Guest]

Is it true that the version downloadable here is a cracked (in the sense of changing gameplay) one? I end up having 30k money all the time. The screenshot at the review article seems to also reveal this behavior of the programmme. :cry:

[blastradius14]

Just change the file "original.exe" to Civ.exe.

[Guest]

thanks blastradius (I'm the guest of 2005-09-10, 11:43PM).

[markus]

I think like Sean...

Where can i find the CIV.EXE ? on my computer when i click at the orignal it says that the civ.exe can't be found...why?

[Guest]

there is an original civ.exe downloadable at

http://apolyton.net/civ1/civ1patches.shtml

it's posted as
Civ Patch (DOS) v5.0 (136k)
http://apolyton.net/civ1/files/updates/civv05.zip

should be the 'latest' civ.dos version ever and fix some bugs.

the version at abandonia is civ.exe v.1.0
(more exact: 474.01)

[laiocfar]

Remember to have the game in C:/MPS/anynamethetyouwant

[TERRAFORM - a MapEditor for Civ.]

:woot: there's now a handy

MAP & GAME EDiTOR - "TERRAFORM"
for Civilization."1" DosVersion
available.
(like we know it for CivNet or Civilization.2 ... and better)

it works as well with winXP and win98(se).

you may look here for it -****
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126921

:hello:

[Guest]

great. thanks.

[SVE file editor for CiV:DOS]

*.SVE editing at CiVDOS files
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112297

[Dino]

Originally posted by SVE file editor for CiV:DOS@Sep 26 2005, 12:26 AM
*.SVE editing at CiVDOS files
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112297
Advertising. Delete. Ban. Exterminate.

EDIT: Naturally, I'm joking.

[Guest]

Originally posted by OvErLoRd @ Sep 25 2005, 11:33 PM

Originally posted by SVE file editor for CiV:-DOS @ Sep 26 2005, 12:26 AM
*.SVE editing at CiVDOS files
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=112297
Advertising. Delete. Ban. Exterminate.

EDIT: Naturally, I'm joking. [/b]
better: test it. :hello:

it's a really mighty tool for those who want to create civ.1.dos scenarios (yes, that's possible now together with Terraform *.MAP editor http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126921 ) :OK:

let's face the fact:
civ.1.dos, the 'sims' of early 90s, is dead today -
but it's still in it's arch-version a very good strategy game -
many freaks JUST LiKE the civ.dos version because of it's catchy graphics
and fast GAMEplay... :whistling:

[blastradius14]

Civ1 is not dead, Meier is still alive. Civ1 is not the precursor to Sims. Sim city is the precursor to sims.

Civ is a nation game, Sims is a person game. You can't stuff 245 cities on a person, trust me.

[laiocfar]

Yep
Sid Meyers isn´t Maxis

[Guest]

talkin' 'bout success blues :rant:

[PP]

:OK: It first game in my life,l play about ten year ago. I love it

I think it number one of all game.even oldest civilza game but super fun

[Max de Witte]

Does anyone know what happens when you finish the palace (the one which you can improve in time)? I always run out of time, or I just don't get improve-oppurtunities, or I win, so I never know what happens next.

Thanks

[Sebatianos]

That's actually a question that I always wanted to ask myelf, but simply forgot. What are the conditions for the improvement of the palace?

I don't know what hapens with Civ1, because I never finished the palace, but I know that in Civ2 nothing happens when you finish decorating the throne room, so I guess, nothing happens. Can anybody verify this?

[Gamefreak]

If I remember correctly, your gold income raises as you improve the palace part by part. But not 100% sure, it's many years since I played Civ1 last. :)

[laiocfar]

That's actually a question that I always wanted to ask myelf, but simply forgot. What are the conditions for the improvement of the palace?


I am sure that u get one improvement with the first wonder and when the ranks (example the most avanced or the mos powerfull, etc); you get twice improvements if u are first and a single one if you are second or third. :OK:

[blastradius14]

In Civ 2 there is a cheat to build a palace improvement, but I don't remember what it was anymore.

I think you get more money or points at the end if your palace is completed. Of course, you are going to have a massive score anyway :)

[Gamefreak]

That's strange. I have Civilization II - Test of Time that had among other interesting campaigns the original Civilization II campaign and the Extended original Civ2 campaign, but I there is nothing about palace improvement, only a simple palace in the capital city that removes financial corruption...

[laiocfar]

In civ 2, the palace building of civ 1 is the throne room, and it hasn´t nothing to do with the game or points, you can chose to tueno off the option and u will never heard again about it. I got almost forgetted about the palace or throne room.


That's strange. I have Civilization II - Test of Time that had among other interesting campaigns the original Civilization II campaign and the Extended original Civ2 campaign, but I there is nothing about palace improvement, only a simple palace in the capital city that removes financial corruption...

Well, for your version thare isn´t any other palace and i am sure that u got the throne room option turned off. Maybe it didn´t came with your game, the versions on the net most of them didn´t got some of the additional stuff like the throne room additions, the wonder´s movies, the loser´s movie, etc.
And Civ2 hasn´t campaign, there are scenarios or full game modes. Anyway when you found your first city, it got a capital palace, the palace is from where u rule your empire and in a capital the corruption is always 0. The distance to capital generete a discontent and corruption factor depending on the goverment. Big sized empires with depotism or monarchy have to change the goverment or move the palace to the centre of them. This is a very common problem in long scenarios with a high tecnologic paradigma (make each tecno more diificult to get), you must chose a warless republic or move palace.

[blastradius14]

Yeah, the cheat for civ 2 doesn't work in Civ 1 for the palace.
Oh, you can cheat a palace in every city in civ 2... but Fundamentalism is still better.

I wonder why they made it so you couldn't be the barbarians in Civ3? hehe.

If you try to be the barbarians in Civ 1, you have to make sure they sacked a city and kept it first, other wise its game over. The barbarians are very unstable, they have a city that doesn't exist called none, and if it manages to build a unit it ends the game. Also, if you look in the city or step a unit into it it also ends the game.

[laiocfar]

The barbarians are very unstable, they have a city that doesn't exist called none, and if it manages to build a unit it ends the game. Also, if you look in the city or step a unit into it it also ends the game.

WOW, i didn´t notice that and it is a very strange things...but be the :titan: ...

[mak]

hey,

i downloaded this but i cant figure out how to install it. i tried to redownload and to extract it. what do i do?

MaK

[Sebatianos]

You don't need to install it. Just download and extract. Then all you have to do is PLAY! :OK:

[laiocfar]

U must got thr gae inside the carpet c:/mps, otherwise it shouldn´t work

[Vedran S.]

As strange as it sounds, Civilization 1 is my favorite game of all time. It's simplicity and addictivness are well-known to anyone who's played it. I used to play it a lot in elementary and junior high school and have lost the files and the old diskettes, those old big ones, so it brings back nostalgia and memories to see it on Abandonia. Thanks a lot, I've just downloaded it.

[laiocfar]

It's simplicity and addictivness are well-known to anyone who's played it.

These are the keys of the three greats games civ, col and civ 2.... :kosta:
And for forget them civ CtP, civ 3 and civ 4 will fail :cry:

[blastradius14]

Call to Powers I and II are made by activision. They are gonna fail anyway.

[Ted]

My version of Civ is acting screwey...If I "buy" a unit after the first few turns, I suddenly have a ton of money, like 30000. Anyone know what the heck is up? I'll try downloading and installing again, but this is weird.

[laiocfar]

30000 it´s near the max of money that u can got...
Maybe it´s a problem with the version, check the Rules file for be sure that it isn´t a problem of programation :OK:

[Ted]

Hmm, not sure what it was, but I may have downloaded it from some other site. I downloaded the Abandonia version and it's working fine. The previous version had a few extra files so it must have been programmed that way. Thanks...this is a great site!

[blastradius14]

Just run "Original" instead of "Civ". That will fix your uber cash problem.

[Guest]

don't forget to rename the unused into something else and the used civ.exe into "civ.exe" :whistling:

[Sherpa]

This was i first game i ever played, and this game (game title) become legendary...

I have civ 2, civ 3, and ill have civ for in few days so ima glad that on my new computer i have and first part :OK: :brain:

[CiV.1.DOS | Scenario *EARTH 2* |]

Scenario *EARTH 2* by GoldBerg
>>> EMPEROR LEVEL
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147603 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=147603\' target=\'_blank\')


i suggest this one
as CiV.1.DOS GOTM ( = Game of the Month December 2005 )

1. goal: survive 'til 1750 AD LOL

2. goal: WiN against the others here
a)
score / percentage at 1750 AD ?
B)
# of 'english' inhabitants at 1750 AD ?

discuss?

[NIKOLSON]

NAJBOLJA IKAD!
THE BEST EVER!
DIE BESTE!

[Guest]

Scenario EARTH 2
>>> PRiNCE LEVEL GOTM December 2005
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php...655&postcount=3 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=3447655&postcount=3)

[CarterUS]

thanks! :D

[wolfgang schmidt]

Seid gegrüßt,

just found civ1 on your page and instantly downloaded and played it. this game is awesome. wasted most of my youth playing it *g* well, at least a little :D
now i have this question: how can i play civilization in german language? when i run "installd.bat" there is german text on the screen. to me this implies that it should be possible to play a german version... or am i wrong?
thx in advance!

[Schwartzie808]

I have windows xp and have downloaded civ I from this sight. When I double click on Civ I to run, it goes to the screen where it asks what settings I want, such as sound or no sound. After I finish all of that, I hear the music but the screen is just black. I can't figure out how to make it work. Please help.

Thanks

[DOSBox for Civ.1.DOS]

run civ in
http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/

a 486/DOS emulator

that's the solution for win2000 / winXP

[T-Man]

Originally posted by Max de Witte@Oct 6 2005, 04:23 PM
Does anyone know what happens when you finish the palace (the one which you can improve in time)? I always run out of time, or I just don't get improve-oppurtunities, or I win, so I never know what happens next.

Thanks
The higher your luxuries rate, the faster your palace is built.
I think the palace basically reflects your approval rating (which
you can check under the world menu in the demographics section).

I was playing the game on prince mode, Chinese on the earth map,
I conquered most of the world and discovered future tech at around
the year 1800, so I pushed up my luxuries rate to 50%.
My palace ended up being completed quite quickly. (I built a palace with a nice mix of Greek, Arab and Medieval features!)

Unfortunately, there are no benefits to getting your palace finished. All that happens, is that the computer stops asking you which section to improve (because all the improvements have been finished). Oh well, at least you can sit back and enjoy the view!

I'm not 100% sure, but I think you need the following to get your palace finished as quickly as possible :
- High luxury rate
- Low tax rate
- High population
- High population growth (large families)
- High proportion of population are happy people :brain:
- Low proportion of population are unhappy :wall:
- High approval rating :OK:
- Low disease rates :sick:
- You shouldn't be at war with anyone :tomato:

(About the last point - I conquered all enemy cities except one, Tenochtitlan. I then made peace with the Aztecs. The white 'peace' bar above the mini-palace picture on the left hand side of the screen kept getting longer, and the longer it got it seemed the faster my palace got built).

Anyway, let me shut up now.

[laiocfar]

Just turn off the palace :tomato:

[blastradius14]

Was thinking there, palace? No, the improvement itself does not go faster with luxuries!



Build wonders to make the Castle construction quicker. Make as many people as you can happy citizens. Be the Smartest on the planet and the best military.

[Doc Adrian]

Think its all about the civ scores, I could print up the castle improvement section one time.

Happier citizens, wonders, peace...they all improve the score :)

[blastradius14]

Having the most science and most powerful military won't hurt either... Just have buttloads of cities :D

[Guest]

A game "flaw" I have noticed is that if you put a settler on a ship and tell it to build a road on an ocean square it WILL! I don't know if it works with irrigations but I think it's worth a try :sneaky:

[Crazy Lady]

Does difficulty level effect palace upgrade speed?

[Doc Adrian]

Originally posted by Crazy Lady@Mar 15 2006, 01:42 PM
Does difficulty level effect palace upgrade speed?
Yes it does...

the easier the level the more points needed to get a Palace improvement...because easier level means easier to score points

to have the 37 Palace tiles developed

Your score must 1055 on Emperor Level, and 2461 on Chieftan level to give you examples.

[Crazy Lady]

Thanks Doc Adrian.

I was wondering how to get that many points in emperer difficulty (that's my prefered level btw) I usually play as the romans and my latest game my civilization spread from spain to Japan with about 60-70 or maybe 80 cities tightly packed everywhere inbetween (exept india and cambonia) I usually start the game and sell the palace (Im crazy) then buy two militia and kill the greeks and french, from there I only build settlers despite thr risk and I keep building settlers in all of my cities until I feel safe with the size of my empire (as in all of the northern hemisphere) then I built phalanx in all my cities and I attained masenry from a villager hut. I rebuild the palace in Roma and turned taxes down and luxuries up (it was about 1500 bc) And I get a great deal in taxes and I got about five palace upgrades right away. then I started developing one technology every turn (almost) I build up every city to the best of my abilities. I built the all of the wonders in their respective cities (exept the great library and collosus which I built in Roma) It is about 240-340 ad and I have just developed industrialization. Despite all of this I only have 500 points and my palace is only half finished, I have tried every thing already mentioned here like lux rates, densly populated cities, and everything I could think of. I never start wars and they seldom last more than a few turns. I think I need some help...:cry:

P.s. sorry for my bad english

[Rogue]

Now, this is something I did not try in this game. O.o

How in the world do you menage 70-80 cities? How long it takes you to make sure everything works and what's happines? Do you build all wonders or at the beggining some other civilization got some wonders?

[Crazy Lady]

Originally posted by Anubis@Mar 16 2006, 12:54 PM
Now, this is something I did not try in this game. O.o

How in the world do you menage 70-80 cities? How long it takes you to make sure everything works and what's happines? Do you build all wonders or at the beggining some other civilization got some wonders?
All of my numbers were estimates, I just counted 71 cities and I have no intention of stopping. I first started playing the game when I was 4-8 years old and I never was very good, My father was the master at it I MEAN HE WAS INCREDIBLE he always had a huge empire that spanned the globe with as many as 90-100 cities :woot:. I on the other hand always had 5-10 cities I always wanted to focus on my cities and build them up, so I always lost :cry:. Then my dad gave me one peice of advice to help me play and that is THE NAME OF THE GAME IS EARLY EXPANTION. I took this to heart and my strategy is now to sell my palace (I can get masonry from a hut and rebuild it later) and buy two militia, from there I search and destroy any near by nations. Meanwhile my capital is producing settlers (and it will keep doing so until it can't support any more) I tell these new settlers to build cities which in turn build more settlers who build more cities add infinium. I leave ALL of my cities undefended (which is another great risk) After I explore villager huts and get technology and money I rebuild my palace in Roma. At this point I tell my non frontier cities to build Militia or phalanx if advailable, Imeadiataly after that I build a temple (it is VERY important to build the Oracle to keep your plump empire from rotting on the vine) My frontier cities continue to build settlers then when they are no longer boarder cities build phalanx (I know it is a terrible risk but look at my name) Don't bother with roads or irrigations yet that comes later just continue doing what you've been doing. Your cities that are building settlers will remain small so don't worry about them going into civil unrest but if they do build a temple (or another settler...) After your empire has reached it'd desired size tell ALL of your undefended cities to build Phalanx then temples then one last settler Each (if they can support it) after the settlers are built place what ever you like in your city, the settlers will build roads and irrigations to connect your bloated empire and start to consolidate your gains.

Note 1 you will be slightly behind technologically but once your cities start to grow you will catch up VERY quickly

Note 2 Develope republic or monarchy as soon as possible their increase in trade and food production will give you more taxes and higher populations. (but be careful you know what happens when they grow too fast)

Note 3 You WILL encounter other civs and If your city is undefended they will attack it without even saying "hello" :rant: Just to let you know you will prolly lose a few cities that way it is best to establish peace before expanding in that direction again (even if they are backstabbing two-faced liars)

Note 4 It Is crazy to sell your palace as no taxes are collected no research performed and corruption is rampent... If you don't want to take the risk play on Chief level and buy 1 militia with your starting money and forget about selling the palace at all :OK:

Note 5 Save your game before exploring a villager hut If it is barbarians Load it and try again :sometimes: it changes Also note the villagers don't give you a tech you're developing so if you intend to sell your palace DON'T RESEARCH MASONARY!!

Note 6 Save your game every turn or so if an opponent civilization builds a wonder you want or NEED load it (they sometimes don't build it if you load I think it is a trigger or something but not sure)

Again Im really bad at english so don't mind any grammar errors

[Master MC]

Your English is not terrible at all.
I'm never too much in favor of expanding terribly; I always build 4-5 cities and upgrade them (including terrain), so I get huge, wealthy and intelligent cities. Usually, I'm the big man together with another civ (mostly the :sniper: Zulus ).
One problem I encounter when expanding terribly is the building site. Do the working zones not interfere? Am I not building on arctic areas or the desert? Really difficult and annoying at the same time.

[Tulac]

That's called smallpox strategy, and it's useful, because you're cities never grow too much, and you don't need many improvements, so no, city zone don't interfere in a damaging way...

This is however imposible in civ3 and 4...

[Crazy Lady]

Originally posted by Tulac@Mar 16 2006, 10:36 PM
That's called smallpox strategy, and it's useful, because you're cities never grow too much, and you don't need many improvements, so no, city zone don't interfere in a damaging way...

This is however imposible in civ3 and 4...
I never build cities right next to or even one space away from another one without reason. I usually give atleast 2 spaces per city (unless I am building cities in their proper place such as Athens and Byzantium... that is the only exception)

I am currently engaged in TOTAL WAR :titan: with my least favorite civ the Zulu.
Ever since I was little I hated them they are agressive and warlike not to mention they can't be trusted. They used to destroy many of my cities when I was younger, it got so bad that I would restart If I found out they were an enemy civ. When I was a little girl I used to have so much fun building an empire and a meeting with the zulu ment the game was over the zulu have come to take my fun away :rant: :cry:

They have broken through my first line of defence and are currently headed for my north african cities (why do they hate me so much?) I always push them back but I can't seem to capture all of their tiny settlements which get destroyed (it seems they always have a few back up settlers hiding and they rebuild after the war) they then beg for peace and the senate overules my rejection (can ANYBODY be THAT Stupid) They then rebuild 3-5 cities and then contact me and call ME the leader of the most UNTRUSTWORTHY INFADELS and demand monarchy or somthing which I refuse and they declare war again :sucks:

P.S. Is the regestration to this forum free?

[blastradius14]

Yeah, registering is free.


The russians are my problem most of the time, so I kill them as quickly as I can. No one else ever tries to play with me in the space race :titan:

[Crazy Lady]

Originally posted by blastradius14@Mar 17 2006, 04:17 AM
Yeah, registering is free.


The russians are my problem most of the time, so I kill them as quickly as I can. No one else ever tries to play with me in the space race :Titan:
The russians arent really ever a problem for me because I like to play the Romans

Im going to register now ty

[blastradius14]

Hehehe... they are a problem when you like to be the english :sneaky:

Have fun :OK:

[Phantom Imperator]

KK I just Signed up as Phantom Imperator (please tell me I spelt-ed it right)

Im going to get my bf to play civ 3 with me tommorow (because civ 1 and 4 don't have a hot seat function) And I will play the RUSSIANS MUAHAHAHAHAHA... LOL
and now Im bored... Im going to bed

Edit: oops Civ 4 DOES have a hotseat mode.... my bad :bleh:

[CivDOS Fanatic]

Civilization for DOS | GOTM Scenario, March-April 2006

Civ1 - Game of the Month

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=159418

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Travelers report:
We have traveled far and wide and you kingdom is by far the weakest. There is only one land bridge that connects you to the other kingdoms, but your peninsula is large and will support your subjects. A group of unattached phalanxes guard your southern mountains.
http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/gotmMarch06.gif
People: Romans Click here for GOTM March 2006 zip file (http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads11/GOTMMarch06.zip)
Level: King
goal: conquest Shortest amount of time (players with same year civ score breaks tie).
If no conquest then earliest space ship landing.
If none of the above the player who lasts the longest wins.

All Entries must be submitted before April 15, 2006

Entries will consists of a zip file with all auto save games. If 3000bc & 2000bc may be overwritten then rename them Civil2.* and Civil3.*. The move before your last move will be saved as civil0.*. Include your Replay.txt, your year and score.



Rules: Use version 5. No version 1 (i.e. 474.01 or 475.01) Click here to upgrade to version 5 (http://apolyton.net/civ1/civ1patches.shtml)
No use of other programs (map viewers, Editors, etc...)
Overuse of settler cheat - if you use it so state it.

Note: In test play the other countries seemed to get a lot of the wonders. If they don't get a large proportion it will indicate heavy use of the save game cheat
...

[blastradius14]

Another fine map made with the civ-dos map editor.

[Phantom Imperator]

Originally posted by blastradius14@Apr 2 2006, 11:43 PM
Another fine map made with the civ-dos map editor.
There is a map editor??!! I thought Civ 2-4 were the only ones with a mapeditor...???
checks dates nope not april first

[Sian]

well ... i play more safe generaly ...

start off by building a militia (for exploring), a settlers (second city), a phalanx (usually starts with getting bronze working), yet another settlers (infrastructure), a garnary, yet another settlers (another city or infrastucture depending on the map) and then a temple ... and other than the militia i do that with every city i make ... and i keep my research as high as possable while having a positive money income or they hit zero

i start with tech rushing towards first philosophy and then railroads (for even better infrastructure between the cities

i've once with the russians on earth managed to build my first tank in 20 BC. while having cities all over europe, asia and northen africa

[Guest]

Hi, played civ1 on my computer a while back and worked fine. Now something odd is up. The game starts up fine but when I try and use the keyboard all I get are these symbols. Keyboard works in everything else but civ. Reinstalled the game and switched keyboards but still the same weird symbols. Hmm.

[Guest]

Probably shouldv mentioned:
Windows XP Pro, version 2002, expensionpack 2
664 MHZ, 352MB of RAM

[blastradius14]

Have you tried using dos-box?

[nickie]

hey guys, i hate askin, i have windows xp, and have downloaded civ :D and dos box. how do i get the game up and running :cry:

[The Fifth Horseman]

How about going to the Troubleshooting forum and reading the "Most common problems" sticky there?

[Guest]

Originally posted by blastradius14@Apr 4 2006, 04:04 AM
Have you tried using dos-box?
Yep, that did it. Thanks for the tip Blastradius14! Now I can play civ while Im at work. :OK:

[Phantom Imperator]

Still no answer. Well obviously there is a map editor (otherwise sombody would have said somthing by now) so where can I get one?

[velik_m]

Originally posted by Phantom Imperator@Apr 4 2006, 08:47 PM
Still no answer. Well obviously there is a map editor (otherwise sombody would have said somthing by now) so where can I get one?
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/2766/google1ip.gif

try something like: civ1 editor

[blastradius14]

Thats not quite something I'd want someone to ask for, but the friendly folks at Civfanatics.com probably have something for that.

Oh yeah, they do. But to use some of the editors you would be spending more time getting it to work then actually using it LOL

[lalalala]

Originally posted by blastradius14@Apr 17 2006, 05:01 AM
Thats not quite something I'd want someone to ask for, but the friendly folks at Civfanatics.com probably have something for that.

Oh yeah, they do. But to use some of the editors you would be spending more time getting it to work then actually using it LOL
sorry, that's nonsense...

TERRAFORM really works easy & handy on all windows versions,
but the programmer seems to be ??? ???
so 'we' may need somebody who is able cr*ck the latest version
( that was already good / o.k. / full usable )
or
is able to analyse TF and program a key generator for it.


there is an excel script (***) that does the same, but is not handy,
TF is far more specialised and 'in the game's rules'.


in all cases you need a savegame from CivDOS
where you have 'manipulate' the *.map file
with
(A) *** the EXCEL script (not recommended, but works somehow)
>>> some instructions in this thread >>>
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=2078
DL >>> http://www.geocities.com/civcrazy/civedrel1.zip

OR
(B) TERRAFORM (recommended with a keymaker)

Personal Message programmer DACK
at civfanatics (you must be a member)
http://forums.civfanatics.com/sendmessage....lmember&u=38586 (http://forums.civfanatics.com/sendmessage.php?do=mailmember&u=38586)

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126921
Windows 98SE needs WMI. [/CENTER]


1) What do you need to register?
You must be a civfanatics member and follow the programs instructions in the Request For Registration Key window. You must send your request by email.
2) What does The message "All other tabs are currently disabled" mean ?
These are debugging screen that have not been deleted
3) Screen size must be at least 1024X768
4) When updating to a new version, the easiest way is copy the ini file.If you install to the regular loctation it should be C:\Program Files\TerraForm\TerraForm.ini
Before you remove the old version save the old ini file somewhere. After you have installed the new version copy the old ini file to C:\Program Files\TerraForm\TerraForm.ini
This will save you from have to load the key and set the path to your map files

[Nick Archer]

WOW!!!!!!!! The Holy Grail of games! been searching for it for months!
I will be recommending this website to everyone i know (I live in Wellington, New Zealand and Civ is still popular here). I used to play for hours, days on end!

Yes i agree with the other posts here that Real world map Aztecs or Americans is good strategy. If anywhere near the Russians kill them EARLY as they are pesky! RESEARCH like crazy to get ahead technologically.

[Grand Dad]

Civilization 1 REMAINS the greatest strategy game ever made...to date! :D :OK:

[Phantom Imperator]

Originally posted by blastradius14 @ Apr 17 2006, 05:01 AM

Thats not quite something I'd want someone to ask for, but the friendly folks at Civfanatics.com probably have something for that.

Oh yeah, they do. But to use some of the editors you would be spending more time getting it to work then actually using it LOL


Thank you for your response Blastradius, I already did a google search before I asked for a link, for the record. You were right I couldn't get any of the editors to work. Then I found one hidden in the civfanatics forum that uses microsoft excel, It worked for five minutes and then stopped :crybaby: so I eventually gave up. Thank you anyways.
Thank you aswell, Lalalala, for your input. I can't use terraform because as you said Dack is MIA and I don't want to register to civfanatics forum all that much either.

P.s. I haven't been able to get on for a while, so sorry for the delayed response.

[laiocfar]

Civilization 1 REMAINS the greatest strategy game ever made...to date!

and what about colonization, i like it more as strategy game.

[Grand Dad]

Yes Colonization is very good too, but then it's a matter of opinion, which is better and which you loke more.
I have all four of them but the others are nowhere like the first one! <_<

[blastradius14]

My armies of phalanx will indeed crush your one armor! :bleh:

You can always build roads in the water, which is useful if you want to build.... anywhere. As long as you have a fish or two...

[velik_m]

Originally posted by Grand Dad @ May 30 2006, 09:19 AM

Yes Colonization is very good too, but then it's a matter of opinion, which is better and which you loke more.
I have all four of them but the others are nowhere like the first one! <_<


actually civ2 feels like civ1.2

[Japo]

Originally posted by velik_m @ Jun 7 2006, 07:27 AM

actually civ2 feels like civ1.2

That's my point also.

[Eagle of Fire]

I always way prefered Civilization to Civilization II. Granted, CIV II is better in every aspect... But in comparison to Civilization, it take so much time to end a game that you could play 8 Civilization games by the time you end one in Civilization two. Add to that there wasn't that much new things to play with in Civilization II vs the original, and you end up sticking to it.

Civ III is about as bad as Civ II when it comes to the time it needs to finish a game, but at least you have so much improvements that it's worth playing with. In Civ II, all what was really interesting was the movies, and even then I always skipped them after 2-3 views because they became bland and boring very quick. The only real problem with CIV III is the random generator... Or, to be more precise, the lack of one! You either win or lose, there is no inbetween.

[Grand Dad]

Except for the graphics. Did you know that Sid Meier himself wasn't too happy with Civ 2? :bleh:

[velik_m]

Originally posted by Eagle of Fire @ Jun 7 2006, 08:16 PM

I always way prefered Civilization to Civilization II. Granted, CIV II is better in every aspect... But in comparison to Civilization, it take so much time to end a game that you could play 8 Civilization games by the time you end one in Civilization two. Add to that there wasn't that much new things to play with in Civilization II vs the original, and you end up sticking to it.

Civ III is about as bad as Civ II when it comes to the time it needs to finish a game, but at least you have so much improvements that it's worth playing with. In Civ II, all what was really interesting was the movies, and even then I always skipped them after 2-3 views because they became bland and boring very quick.


thats how i always felt about civ2 - too much like civ1. no inovation, just couple of fixes. at least civ3 feels like your playing another game, not just the same game on a new OS.

[Japo]

Civ2's graphics were too Windows-like, I didn't like that, but one got used to it after a while. Anyway I prefer graphics which are immersive, everything's about the game not the operating system. I guess everybody prefers so, that's why now all games are full-screen.

Anyway it's true that Civ2 is but an upgrade of Civ, but that's not bad, at least it's better than screwing the thing up like in Civ3 --in my humble opinion. I played Civ1 for hours which ammounted to months altogether, and then when I saw Civ2 I thought it was a bad sequel and wouldn't ever play it. But now when I want to play Civ I play Civ2, it's got everyrhing from Civ1 and combats are not too random like in the first game.

[blastradius14]

Of Course, you gotta remember that Microprose wasn't at the head of Civ 3, or 4. Sid only got to "approve" of things for 3 and 4 :bleh:

You wanna make Civ 2 full screen? Adjust your monitor so you can't see the name task bar at the top anymore, and Auto-hide the start menu/task bar. Its as close as you can get, I bet :OK:

[Japo]

But it was just everything that was somewhat Windows-like in some sense... Not so much as Star Control 3, that was full-screen but the interface was very Windows-like, unimaginative, ugly.

[blastradius14]

Only thing I can tell you is to change the base backdrop (like some scenarios do) to have different wallpaper then. Maybe you can get it to blend in so well together you won't even see the seems?

[Japo]

Never mind, after investing hour after hour in Civ2 I've grown used to it. Not that it's beautiful, but it's the gameplay that counts. ^_^

[Guest_Matt_*]

I don't see a link to download it...I've been trying to figure out how to get it, I downloaded the disk drive thing and the drivers, but it's all a bunch of icons that bring up windows that close automatically...HELP!

[The Fifth Horseman]

BUY IT! (http://www.cdaccess.com/html/pc/civiliz.htm)

[Grand Dad]

After Civ, despite it's limitations, Civ III, PTW, Conquests and even Civ IV look insipid (despite the high grade graphics, sound and maps)!
It was fun playing Civ again and again...I still do! :OK:

[Guest]

I have to ask, since take-2 interactive buyed rights to all civ, and they will publish civ I - IV compilation, that means that civ I is sold again and isnt abandonware? Or am I wrong?

Oh, my thanks go to Kosta for creating this awsome site.

[The Fifth Horseman]

At the point they publish that compilation Civilization I will change its status back to Sold.

[Grand Dad]

That's funny but not fair. And why 'sold'? Why not continue selling it?

[The Fifth Horseman]

I meant in the Oldwarez List. Sold as in Still Sold. Not as in Sold Out.

[Grand Dad]

Fine so sold is 'as in still sold' and not 'sold out' and that's about the lists but for pity's sake why? :)

[The Fifth Horseman]

Because if we still had it for download then, it would make us a warez-site and bring ESA down on us harder then ever.

[Grand Dad]

Aha that's it...understood and no arguements!
Peace!

[Guest]

:sneaky:

Civilization 1
TerraForm MapEditor
Version 2.0.49 2Oct06

is now available.

check
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=126921
for this update. :whistling:

:unsure:
(you (just) have to register for a key
because the programmer ( Dack ) wants to know
how many people have interest in (t)his work)

[Grand Dad]

I didn't know that Civ. I could be edited? Don't remember seeing the option. Only hope this is not a cheat? :(

[Eagle of Fire]

Civilization and Colonization, if I am not mistaken, use .txt files for configuration. As long as you know what you are doing and you know what the number after the 8th coma on a line do, you can do pretty much whatever you want. :)

[Grand Dad]

Will open my directory and see what to do? May need more help...know the least bit about configuration of a game except what it says in the Menu :(

[laiocfar]

Civ2 got a .txt called rules where you can customize units, wonders tech, in a word everything. For Col its the same and it should by the same for Civ1. Anyway take care, make backups, check from time to time if game still works (you should open it and play a few turns in a developed game) and to change icons and other .jpg or .gif is harder and will make the game crash.

[Grand Dad]

Ah well I'm not about to trifle with my games...it's enough that I can still play them :)
laiocfar your signature make me nostalgic...my C&C wont install...am content with my Red Alert 2 :(

[Gottfried]

CiWilizaatioon!
Thx u people for bringing it back to me..
As a token of gratitude, there's advice for newbies - military research - i found early game these two technologies essential - Wheel - it is soon-game tech and gives you great soon offensive unit - chariot, which has good attack and is fast. Later focus on Gunpowder, as fortified Musketeers are long time the best defensive untit around. Then you can wall your empire and focus on building and research easily. My record of making a space ship was y 1856, :D what was yours?

[Grand Dad]

:) thanks Muad Dib...have been playing it since it first came out on 5.25" floppies. That's the spirit keep it up!

[Guest]

I remember when I first saw this game back in the early 1990's... I had moved into a place with one of my old high school buddies and he had his PC set up at the house. Another friend of his that was going to Washington State U brought the software over one weekend and loaded it up. I watched my roommate play it for a while then I got a chance to give it a go. At first, it was irritating because the other guy (Dave) wasn't being all that helpful on what to do. Maybe it was the beer... but eventually, I found myself addicted to this game. I didn't go into addict mode on that first day... I think it might have taken a week, but I was soon addicted indeed. I would get home from work in the afternoon around 3, then I would blink and it would be 11 at night! Yes, both my roommate and I both were addicts but I think I was worse. I also became the superior player and mastered it before he did. I was glad to see that they came out with CIV II and multi-player mode later on down the road, but the game itself was a dissappointment to me. I hated the skewed layout of the landscape and longed for the days when the layout was "square" or at 90 degrees to the monitor.

If I had my dithers, I would make a modern version of the original CIV and make it multiplayer... but keeping the same basic gameplay the same. Yes, I would in fact modify a few things... like the classic Battleship weakness to the rowboat (and the propensity to lose!) or to the Militia encamped on a mountaintop in Fortify mode while standing inside a Fortress. Smart players that played the game in the hardest setting learned to use the older units as battleship bait on the coastlines if they got behind one of the AI players but it was still ridiculous. I mean really... a battleship somehow losing to a schmuck in a rowboat. Give me a break... the blokes at Microprose blew it there but their blunders were few in CIV. Overall, that game has to be the all-time number one game in history. It is in my book! For sheer playability, CIV was great... you could start fresh over and over again with a new game and the same excitement was there. The mystery and excitement was always fresh since you simply did not know where the enemy was or how far along he was (other than getting messages about World Wonders being built which was the ONLY way to gage how far along the AI players were until you found them.... or they found YOU!). I will admit that I eventually got burned out on CIV... but after a few months away from the game, I would find it fun to play again for a game or two. Even now, I still occassionally play... although I enjoy "live" games much more over the web. Still, CIV is always there... ready and waiting for me to fire it back up for a game. Somehow, I think that I might be playing CIV another 15-20 years from now... as long as I still have a way to actually play it. MOO II is another game I like to play although I rarely fire it up.

Isn't it amazing how far games have come since 1990 or 1991? I was fortunate enough to grow up in the video game arcade age... meaning I was in Junior and Senior High School between 1981 and 1986. I remember when there were arcades and upright video game maches EVERYWHERE. Gas stations, mini-marts, grocery stores, the bowling alley, movie theatres, the mall, the local arcades in the shopping centers... they were all over the place and it was awesome! Those were the golden years of arcades... but unfortunately, they fell by the wayside due to the influx of too much competition and the cut-throat methodology that goes hand in hand with it. Yes, I'm talking about the introduction of tokens as opposed to quarters... while it was great to be able to play 5 games for a dollar... then 6 and 7 and 8 and so on, it actually ended up killing the industry. 20 games for a buck! Awesome! Up until there are no more arcades left to play at because they all went out of business. Ironically, in the mid-1990's, I used to go to a good sized arcade in Portland, Oregon on Burnside Stteet not too far from the Polytechnic High School. It was a kind of throwback to the 1980's for arcade machines... which means that it had most of the classics. In fact, it often had multiples of the macines... so you could find 2, 3, 4, or 5 of Pac Man or Defender lined up next to each other or spread around the arcade. Yes... it was a nickel arcade... all games took nickels. I walked out of there at closing time with blood blisters and fried eyeballs on a few Friday or Saturday nights.

I suppose I can also blame the generation of home based games for the demise of arcade machines... yes, I had an Atari 2600 and an Atari 400 and those games were fun to play too.... but there was no comparison between the real machines and the home based consoles. At least there wasn't for over a decade in my book. The 1990's saw a rapid rise of computer technology and gaming was the driving force... and I'm very glad it exists today... but the look, feel, playability, sights and sounds of the classic machines will always hold a special place in my life. Ironically, CIV saved me a lot of money over the long run... and did provide for a new source of enjoyment. You could save your game (something you could never do in an arcade!) and you could play it at any time of the day or night. Since I was dealing with a PC, I also furthered my usage of and education in programming/computers which is nice. It's funny...to this day, my old man still cannot use a computer and can barely turn one on. In fact, I still doubt he even recognizes the powerful potential of computers to improve everyday life. Not that it's a slam in my old man... he just grew up in an entirely different world is all. At the end of the day though... I'm glad my world included video games and CIV. Too many hours of playing it to count... many of them wasted hours in a way - haha! Still, I got mass enjoyment out of it and I certainly could have been doing far worse things like developing an alcohol problem... or be a real idiot and waste my life on dope or stealing or whatever detrimental activity you can think of. Thanks guys for putting CIV up for those that didn't have it... I already did but it's greatthat others have the opportunity to get into it after all these years. - Brian

PS Want a "new" challenge? Try out www.runescape.com It's my current favorite game. It's live on the web 24/7 365 days a year. Good fun and it's "live".

[Mighty Midget]

Originally posted by Guest @ Nov 29 2006, 12:13 AM

... a battleship somehow losing to a schmuck in a rowboat.


:hysterical: What excellent choice of words, and how true. This was what eventually nailed that coffin for me. I remember my 40-something tank army being blasted to kingdom come by that militia guy on the mountaintop. Then and there I said to myself I was never going to touch that game ever again. Too bad in a way, since I never saw the same charm in the follow-ups.

EDIT: Another thing that annoyed me, was that after you had built every possible improvement in every city, you had to build units, even if they choked your economy. That was the improvement in later civs, beside the improved battle algorithms.

@Muad Dib: I don't remember my "best" in the space race, but I remember nuking my opponents BC! That was pretty insane.

[rlbell]

Originally posted by Guest @ Nov 28 2006, 11:13 PM

I remember when I first saw this game back in the early 1990's... I had moved into a place with one of my old high school buddies and he had his PC set up at the house. Another friend of his that was going to Washington State U brought the software over one weekend and loaded it up. I watched my roommate play it for a while then I got a chance to give it a go. At first, it was irritating because the other guy (Dave) wasn't being all that helpful on what to do. Maybe it was the beer... but eventually, I found myself addicted to this game. I didn't go into addict mode on that first day... I think it might have taken a week, but I was soon addicted indeed. I would get home from work in the afternoon around 3, then I would blink and it would be 11 at night! Yes, both my roommate and I both were addicts but I think I was worse. I also became the superior player and mastered it before he did. I was glad to see that they came out with CIV II and multi-player mode later on down the road, but the game itself was a dissappointment to me. I hated the skewed layout of the landscape and longed for the days when the layout was "square" or at 90 degrees to the monitor.


You should look at Freeciv. It is an open source project based on reverse engineering the original. It plays as either Civ1 or Civ2, and both can be played multiplayer. The doubleplusgood thing about it is that there is a square tileset that can be used, even while playing Civ2 style.

[Grand Dad]

That's all very interesting guys...still CIV 3 (with its two expansions) [didn't get 2, so can't comment on it] and even CIV 4 donot come up to the thrill of first discovering the very first one :)

[FrankU]

About editing Civ 1:
I'm really not a computerwizz, but I found out how to edit the game with Norton Texteditor. In these days I was a student and had time for this kind of fun.... I even made my own Civ translation into Dutch. Also I edited the game a bit.
Editing became much easier with CivII and its txt-files.

[Grand Dad]

Good for you, congrats! But I consider it a form of cheat. But then don't let me stop you :).

[rupertbear]

o i take it back, if there was one game that i played more in my childhood than both powermonger & populous 2 it was definitely civilisation! as a young child i used to stay up all night (hiding my dressing gown under the door so my parents wouldn't see my light on!) playing this game!

So unbelievably classic, although the load time was pretty abysmal on my amiga 500+ & i was always rather dubious over the options when you created a new world (i never really noticed any difference)

long live civilisation... i haven't tried the fourth instalment yet, very excited i am!

[Grand Dad]

Even today Civ I reigns supreme, I have III and IV but they just don't compare with it :)! And neither do Sierra's Empire Earth nor Microsoft's Age of Empires I to III though they are good especially AOE II. And then there's the Age of Mythology series. I just discovered that I had 1503 A.D. lying with me. It's looks like Colonization (have you played it, it too is very, very good?). I haven't really tried 1503 really, just started but that's all :(.

Happy Gaming and Peace!

[rhetangle]

I lost my Father to this game and Railroad Tycoon :(

Without them perhaps my childhood would have been a little richer? Who knows.

Damn you Sid Meier

[CIVkid]

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(FrankU @ Jan 10 2007, 02:36 PM) 274175</div>
About editing Civ 1:
I'm really not a computerwizz, but I found out how to edit the game with Norton Texteditor.
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better use those great freeware editors there for civ1 >
forums.civfanatics.com/downloads.php?do=cat&id=107

:bleh:

[|> y 1 @ /\/]

Great game. :brain:

But I seem to have a problem.
Sometimes, not in any specific year, when I've just finished building something in a city and I click CHANGE to change what I'm building, the game just hangs. :sos:

I'm running it under DosBOX. The error mostly occurs while playing chieftain level but does occur in higher levels too. Dowloaded v5 Patch.

Still a great game. Just gets annoying if I haven't saved for a while and the game freezes.

[velik_m]

Great game. :brain:

But I seem to have a problem.
Sometimes, not in any specific year, when I've just finished building something in a city and I click CHANGE to change what I'm building, the game just hangs. :sos:

I'm running it under DosBOX. The error mostly occurs while playing chieftain level but does occur in higher levels too. Dowloaded v5 Patch.

Still a great game. Just gets annoying if I haven't saved for a while and the game freezes.
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Civ has autosave

[pepe4158]

Hi All

Just wanted to introduce myself as I just found this board and I am a big Civ fanatic and strategy war gamer....Civ is one of the all time greats of course in the true strategy genre, nnot just a click fast game like the modern day RTS game imposters.

Wow so we are actually up to Civ IV guys...hope its ok if I just mae a couple brief comments on that version. Its still crying for tactical combat, and I wish they had a larger map editor, I devot hours to a good Civ game, n I want room to grow lol, current map editor for Civ 4 is too limmited on number of bit spaces.....I want a gigantic map, but Sid keeps ignoring my spamming him, lol (imagine that).

Say just wanted to mention to, if you love this one, you will surely love Master of Magic which as I understand was programmed by Sid Meir too. Its a Civ clone with tactical combat, fantasy setting, and heroes to hire.

Yeah the fantasy thing turns some gamers off, as they prefer the real and mundane sand sci-fi aspects of Civ.

[pepe4158]

:hysterical: What excellent choice of words, and how true. This was what eventually nailed that coffin for me. I remember my 40 something tank army being blasted to kingdom come by that militia guy on the mountaintop. Then and there I said to myself I was never going to touch that game ever again. Too bad in a way, since I never saw the same charm in the follow-ups.

EDIT: Another thing that annoyed me, was that after you had built every possible improvement in every city, you had to build units, even if they choked your economy. That was the improvement in later civs, beside the improved battle algorithms.

@Muad Dib: I don't remember my "best" in the space race, but I remember nuking my opponents BC! That was pretty insane.


Lol...yeah that was soooo funny...a dam* lucky schmuck huh?

But dont you guys think a tactical combat option would have changed that?

I really think the games crying for one, but Sid keeps ignoring my repeated spams lol....well at least when he made the civ clone MoM he decided to add tactical combat.

[Anapaest]

Great game. :brain:

But I seem to have a problem.
Sometimes, not in any specific year, when I've just finished building something in a city and I click CHANGE to change what I'm building, the game just hangs. :sos:

I'm running it under DosBOX. The error mostly occurs while playing chieftain level but does occur in higher levels too. Dowloaded v5 Patch.

Still a great game. Just gets annoying if I haven't saved for a while and the game freezes.
Hehe, that's what i was about to whine about, too :)
tried running in dosmode, dosbox, winxp with and without compatibility settings.
loading a previous savegame does not help, since it just freezes at the exact same time (after building something, then clicking change).
it can only be helped by NOT building that exact building in that exact city.
and: that sucks :p

Any ideas on how to solve that problem?

[gregor]

i have another version and i don't remember this ever happening. :O

maybe try and find another version on internet.

[alec132970]

how do i actually download a game from this website?

[dosraider]

You can't download those with the 'ESA' protected icon. CIV1 isn't downloadable.
Buy it.

[Steven_COLO_VET]

I'm a "visuallu impaired" veteran with limited access to get out & go so I NEED ... BRAIN EXERCISE. I had "CIV" on my olf 386 but THAT died a couple of yeaRS AGO. i GOT A "NEW" xp COMPUTER THROUGH THE va BUT i CAN'T FIND A COPY OV "civilization" anywhere! a FRIEND TOLD ME i COULD dOWNlOAD A COPY here BUT >>> APPEARANTLY not. :(

cAN anyone PLEASE HELP? i HAVE ONLY LIMITED/FIXED INCOME BUT i CAN PAY $5 OR $10 BUCKS IF i HAVE TO.

Here's HOPEING!

Thanks,!

Steven

[Eagle of Fire]

Please read the post just above yours.... :noworry:

[The Fifth Horseman]

The download is not available for legal reasons. Offering money in return won't change anything - no amount of money would be worth getting Abandonia shut down.

The game is still sold online, however:
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/184516/Civilization-2/Product.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00004VXAZ/ref=dp_olp_2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00002S8AV/ref=dp_olp_2

[Rogue]

The download is not available for legal reasons. Offering money in return won't change anything - no amount of money would be worth getting Abandonia shut down.

The game is still sold online, however:
http://www.play.com/Games/PC/4-/184516/Civilization-2/Product.html
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00004VXAZ/ref=dp_olp_2
http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00002S8AV/ref=dp_olp_2

Aren't those links for Civ 2 and he asked about Civilization 1 (on his 386)?!

[The Fifth Horseman]

Owtch, you're right.
This should help anyway:
http://www.google.com/coop/cse?cx=018422327951623939841%3A62oba5t3tks

[moffepolle]

If you want to focus on city-building just play as the Aztecs on the real world map, you should be able to kill the Americans within the first few turns, after that you have all of north and south America to yourself, the other players don't seem to go to America so you can attack when you are ready.

P.S. Wooo! 200 posts!

I did the other way around i was a merican blocked of mexico and just took him out ;)

[burt777]

I get a lot of messages saying my population can not support any more military units. I think one unit is disbanded (or discarded right after production) every time the message pops up.

My population is 33.930.000 people, and i only have 125 units. I searched the manual and the internet for anything on this limit but couldn't find a word. It's not trivial (i really have to figure out how to keep the peace in my cities and wage a war without knowing exactly how many units i'm allowed to have).

Does anybody know what determines this limit, how to increase it and how to figure it out without sacrificing ("miscarriage") too many units?

------

"Defense Minister:
Sire, our population can not support so many military units. We must eliminate some of our old units before we build new ones."

[The Fifth Horseman]

Maybe it's hardcoded into the game itself?

[Japo]

Units take shields to support. So they are limited by the city they're supported from, not by your whole civ (unlike in Civ3). Shields used to support units aren't added to production each turn, and if you have more units supported from a given city than it can support, they'll get disbanded even if other cities have shields to spare. You can change the city a unit is supported from by taking it to the new city and pressing H. Some governments give you a few free units per city, see Civilopedia for details.

[burt777]

No no no... I know the shields are one restriction, and you get the "unit was disbanded" warning if a city can not support it's units, but i'm referring to something unrelated to shields (or so it seems).
All cities can support all units (shield-wise), but i just get the warning 'our population can not support so many military units'.
I have 19 settlers, 19 caravans, 9 diplomats and 80 other units, the population is 6.860.000 people.

[doc ols]

Burt777-

I have hit this limit before too and I think it is the absolute max number of units that you can have in the game- I don't think it is related to your population size either- no way to overcome this limit unless you want to spend a lot of time hacking the game... If you want to use any more military units then you'll have to use/disband the diplomats & camels but I suspect you have almost finished the game already. Once you have fully railroaded & mined/irrigated the area then there is little use for the settlers (except pollution clearance) so you can re-merge them with existing cities or (my favourite) build new cities in unlikely places- like at the poles! It's great for trade!

Cheers-
Oli