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Kosta
11-03-2004, 10:24 AM
Feel free to comment and discuss this game here. Also, if you have any useful tips or tricks don't hesitate to share them with the others! Thanks!

Review (http://www.abandonia.com/en/games/51)

Guest
11-12-2004, 07:59 PM
I don't know how i jump on the ship.

FreeFreddy
11-12-2004, 08:01 PM
You'll need to reach it before it goes out of range for reaching it. Therefore you'll need to hurry like you only can in this level. If you make it in time, just jump then up to the ship and you'll get hooked at it, as far as I can remember now.

Razer
11-12-2004, 11:20 PM
Actually, you have to hold down shift in order to grab on and hold on. (shift holds onto ledges)

Guest
27-12-2004, 10:55 AM
Hello all :),

Great to know that one of my favourite game (back in the 1990's) is available for gratis. (I actually went and paid for getting a CD-ROM which was obviously broken (software all conked up) so the guy exchanged it for a NFS III !) .

Coming to the point, I've never played PoP 2 (only version 1). I managed to get into the ship and be thrown on the island. I got till that swamp, with a rock engraved with some snake like thing (and one of those stones with the same engraving). How exactly am I supposed to open it, or prceed. Help is appreciated.

THanks

patrick
28-12-2004, 11:39 PM
Hi,

as far as i can remember (i played this game 10 years ago) u just need to avoid the stone with the icon thing on it, and make sure all the other stones(the blank one) had been stepped on and sunk in. The door should then open for you.

I loved this game when it first came out in 1993, in fact the version i played was a apple mac version whcih had superior, more high res graphics and also brilliant music that fits the games atmosphere perfectly. It is also alot better than the first POP because the levels are more varied and the story is more dramatic. I can still remember the levels in details and i think it shows how much i loved it and also how good this game really is, so simple yet so elegant gameplay.

Patrick

Guest
29-12-2004, 12:23 PM
Thanks a lot! i think i'l try this now!

Yamcha
29-12-2004, 03:15 PM
Originally posted by Koen@Dec 26 2004, 06:00 PM
THERE IS A VIRUS IN THE ABANDONIA DOWLOAD OF PRINCE OF PERSIA 2!!!

It's called RDA.fighter, and it's located in the nistandby.dat file. I don't know if it's dangerous, but my zonealarm's virus scanner could treat it...
Finaly an explenation. Every time I download POP 2 from any site. My comp nlocks and nothing. Then I have to reinstall it all :not_ok:

ROGI
04-01-2005, 06:47 PM
how to save game ? :eeeeeh:

Wael
04-01-2005, 06:53 PM
Not sure if you can...
But if do, it could some of the F? F1, F2 etc etc...

Games like this,
often lack the option of saving optionally /-

Unknown Hero
04-01-2005, 07:13 PM
Originally posted by ROGI@Jan 4 2005, 08:47 PM
how to save game ? :eeeeeh:
You can't save! You have about 70min to escape, save princess and defeat sultan! :ok:

FreeFreddy
04-01-2005, 07:28 PM
ESC - pauses the game, any key to continue
CTRL+J - choose a joystick control. The game will be calibrated anew for the joystick
CTRL+K - choose a keyboard control
CTRL+R - end the game and return to the title sequence
CTRL+A - starts the game from the beginning of the current level
CTRL+S - the sound will be switched completely off. To switch it on again, same key combination
CTRL+G - save the current game on HD
CTRL+L - press it during the intro sequence to load a last saved game
CTRL+Q - quit the game and return to Dos / Windows / DosBox
SPACE-button - shows, how much time remains yet

Have fun yet. ;)

jimmydean1978
27-01-2005, 07:23 AM
this game sucks!
you can't time your jumps properly and just fall down stupid ledges and then you play the level from scratch over and over and over again. and instead of running and jumping as in episode 1 most of the time you have to crawl under hackers or fight floating heads and snakes. boooring

what a let-down compared to pop1!

wormpaul
27-01-2005, 07:25 AM
You can time your JUMPS>..

Just a learning curve in it..

and about the heads and the snakes...totally true...but that`s why the game is so more difficult then part 1

At least i liked it :bleh:

Guest
27-01-2005, 04:42 PM
try alt+o and it will open a shell, at least in my version does! after a lot of search : )

Razer
02-02-2005, 07:22 PM
Did you know that after level 10 you can turn into the shadow from PoP1? All you do is turn left then right and repeat until shadow pops out. (You need to have 9 life bottles though in order to become shadow or prince will die and it takes away 7 permenant life bottles and you cant enter the level door without prince's body , but the perks are that you cant die you can fall from 1000 storys and live, you can still take out your sword and kill anything that gets in your way, you can walk through gates and that pretty much sums it up). P.S you at the end of level 13 you can become flaming shadow but you need eleven life bottles. and to get back into prince's body just go to it and press down and voila! your a mortal again.

Guest
03-02-2005, 10:09 PM
big problem with cheat mode!

when i play the game with "prince makinit",
everytime i keep pressing the left-cursor, prince loses his lives rapidly.

what shall I do?

Guest
11-02-2005, 04:56 AM
what the hell are the controls for this game can someone plz tell me?????

Guest
11-02-2005, 04:58 AM
and same with prince of persia 1, theres no manual.. whats the controls?

Guest
11-02-2005, 10:33 AM
Arrows to move.

Prince 1: shift to fight (supposing you've picked up the sword, also using shift for that) and to drink potions. As f

another_guest
11-02-2005, 10:40 AM
Oops... :blink:

Arrows to move.

Prince 1: shift to fight (supposing you've picked up the sword, also using shift for that) and to drink potions. As far as I can remember, up arrow worked for jumping. No idea anymore on how to save and load a level :whistle:
shift+arrow to take small steps (useful to move to the border of a platform)
There's also a way to deal different blows with a sword, I think those included a combination of up+shift, or maybe the up key once your sword is drawn?


Prince 2: shift to hang onto ledges and to pick up potions.
ctrl to draw your sword (unlike in Prince 1 where it was only and automatically drawn whenever there was an opponent) and to use it.
escape to pause.
alt+Q to quit.

There are a few more, hopefully someone else can help you out with those.
You might take a look around on the internet, I remember some sites provided all that info.

Guest II
11-02-2005, 07:59 PM
Originally posted by another_guest@Feb 11 2005, 11:40 AM
There are a few more, hopefully someone else can help you out with those.
You might take a look around on the internet, I remember some sites provided all that info.
Just look on the first page of this thread, someone posted there the controls already. :whistle:

another_guest
12-02-2005, 08:14 AM
Oops...

Since someone asked for the controls I wouldn't have expected them to be in here :tomato:

Guest
14-02-2005, 01:54 AM
This game is impossible... killing flying heads is an absolute nightmare..

Unknown Hero
14-02-2005, 08:38 PM
Originally posted by Guest@Feb 14 2005, 03:54 AM
This game is impossible... killing flying heads is an absolute nightmare..
You just need to understand the conception of how to fight those heads, and you'll see that it's not that difficult! (you have to wait 'the head' to come near you, and then you kick them (DO NOT TRY TO KICK THEM EARLIER!)! :ok:

Orfeas
15-02-2005, 04:48 PM
Hello everybody,

I download the file from this site. When i run the exe file I get an error message saying wrong startup directory, check your pif file. When i run it directly from dos promt the game runs normally but when i kill the first opponent it crushes. :ranting:

Any help? Thanx anyway.

JJXB
15-02-2005, 05:24 PM
use vdmsound or dosbox (both in the utilities area of the main site)

Orfeas
16-02-2005, 10:03 AM
I somehow managed to run the game without these two by changing the setup configuration but it crushes in the second level. I tried these two, my computer is too slow for DosBox, with VDMSound it still crushes in the second level. Anyway, not my day.

Tnx for your reply.

karl meinfeld
28-02-2005, 02:22 PM
in level 4, theres this purple carpet on the ground, when im on it and i press "down" it flies me out of the roof, THEN THE GAME CRASHES.... why? im running it on newest DosBox, configured well....

me_lobo
01-03-2005, 07:22 AM
Originally posted by karl meinfeld@Feb 28 2005, 03:22 PM
in level 4, theres this purple carpet on the ground, when im on it and i press "down" it flies me out of the roof, THEN THE GAME CRASHES.... why? im running it on newest DosBox, configured well....
it is not flying you out it smash you right into the bars that are in the ceiling hole, it happen to me as well, probably you first need to open the roof....

me_lobo
01-03-2005, 07:25 AM
Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Jan 4 2005, 08:28 PM
ESC - pauses the game, any key to continue
CTRL+J - choose a joystick control. The game will be calibrated anew for the joystick
CTRL+K - choose a keyboard control
CTRL+R - end the game and return to the title sequence
CTRL+A - starts the game from the beginning of the current level
CTRL+S - the sound will be switched completely off. To switch it on again, same key combination
CTRL+G - save the current game on HD
CTRL+L - press it during the intro sequence to load a last saved game
CTRL+Q - quit the game and return to Dos / Windows / DosBox
SPACE-button - shows, how much time remains yet

Have fun yet. ;)
While in different keyb mode, try alt+"" instead of ctrl+"" :-)

Guest
04-03-2005, 03:24 PM
Originally posted by me_lobo+Mar 1 2005, 08:22 AM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (me_lobo @ Mar 1 2005, 08:22 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-karl meinfeld@Feb 28 2005, 03:22 PM
in level 4, theres this purple carpet on the ground, when im on it and i press "down" it flies me out of the roof, THEN THE GAME CRASHES.... why? im running it on newest DosBox, configured well....
it is not flying you out it smash you right into the bars that are in the ceiling hole, it happen to me as well, probably you first need to open the roof.... [/b][/quote]
I've been trying to open that roof, no success so far....

I head to the right, till the end, then up a bit, and I run into a skellie on a bridge.

Now, I cannot kill him, and after a bit of a fight the bridge opens and we both fall down.
I get nowhere if I evade him and run on, cause he closes the wall that I need to get through when I do that.

What do I do?


- Stipe -

Unknown Hero
04-03-2005, 06:44 PM
Originally posted by Guest+Mar 4 2005, 05:24 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Guest @ Mar 4 2005, 05:24 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> Originally posted by me_lobo@Mar 1 2005, 08:22 AM
******QuoteBegin-karl meinfeld@Feb 28 2005, 03:22 PM
in level 4, theres this purple carpet on the ground, when im on it and i press "down" it flies me out of the roof, THEN THE GAME CRASHES.... why? im running it on newest DosBox, configured well....
it is not flying you out it smash you right into the bars that are in the ceiling hole, it happen to me as well, probably you first need to open the roof....
I've been trying to open that roof, no success so far....

I head to the right, till the end, then up a bit, and I run into a skellie on a bridge.

Now, I cannot kill him, and after a bit of a fight the bridge opens and we both fall down.
I get nowhere if I evade him and run on, cause he closes the wall that I need to get through when I do that.

What do I do?


- Stipe - [/b][/quote]
You must fight skeleton and switch sides with him (you must be left). Don't go far left, because the ugly skeleton will shut the door. When the bridge opens press left and shift.

Tell me if you managed to survive! :ok: :ok:

Pozdrav
- Viktor -

Guest
04-03-2005, 09:50 PM
Originally posted by Unknown Hero+Mar 4 2005, 07:44 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Unknown Hero @ Mar 4 2005, 07:44 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-Guest@Mar 4 2005, 05:24 PM

I've been trying to open that roof, no success so far....

I head to the right, till the end, then up a bit, and I run into a skellie on a bridge.

Now, I cannot kill him, and after a bit of a fight the bridge opens and we both fall down.
I get nowhere if I evade him and run on, cause he closes the wall that I need to get through when I do that.

What do I do?


- Stipe -
You must fight skeleton and switch sides with him (you must be left). Don't go far left, because the ugly skeleton will shut the door. When the bridge opens press left and shift.

Tell me if you managed to survive! :ok: :ok:

Pozdrav
- Viktor - [/b][/quote]
Yeah man, thanks, I did it!

I've been trying to outmaneuver the skellie to the bridge for him to be there when it opens, but it wouldn't, and when we'd fight we'd both fall down... I didn't believe I could be where the bridge opens AND turn and catch for the edge when it does!

Now I finished that level when you just end it right away, just go further, and am at the one where you meet heads.... Those flying heads are a major pain.


- Stipe -

Unknown Hero
04-03-2005, 10:00 PM
Those flying heads are a major pain.

Especially if you don't have a fitting sword!

EuropeanPsycho
19-03-2005, 09:40 AM
I was wondering about the year of this game. On the review page it says it's from 1993, but I remember getting my first computer back in 1992 and it already had PoP 2 on it (I bought the comp used) Do I just remember this all wrong??

Martin1
25-03-2005, 07:31 AM
Please, help me.

Many years have passed since I saw “Prince of Persia 2” for the first time, but I haven’t finished it up to now. I reach to the level with such situation. On one side there is a giant injured spider with unlimited number of fighters on it. On the other side there are four princes or images of the prince standing on crystal stones. Trust me, I have tried a lot of things and now I don’t know what to do.

DreadWing
01-04-2005, 01:10 PM
Okay guys. This is one of my favorite games of all times. Is is extremely cool and fun to play once you get used to the controls. The hardest part will be the jumps that you will have to make. When you will get to the final level of the palace in ruins you will understand what I meant.
I found that the game locks up when I tried to play with sound on VDM. In dosbox works well. But when I get to the bird men, there is a strange bug that respawns them after you kill them, exit the room and then reenter it again. I don't know if it is DosBox or my version of POP2 (wich isn't downloaded from this site).
Also, when you die, reload a saved game instead of "pressing any key" as you would not be able to finish the game due to the lack of time.
Get all the super potions wich gives extra life because you will also need them to finish the game. If you are having troubles, I strongly suggest that you read a FAQ.
Notice that in any level there are 2 save points (at the begining and at the middle of the level).
Have fun playing it and please excuse my grammar.
I will like to add that CTRL+O opens the options menu.

DreadWing
01-04-2005, 01:16 PM
Martin1- In the spider room you will have to fight those guards to try and obtain a super potion (if you don't have at least 11 lives). They will randomly drop one. In the cristal room you will have to kill every false image of Jaffar BUT DON'T turn your back to any of them because they will kill you. In the final room you will have to get your shadow out by pressing left-right-left-right-left-right-left-right... notice that you will lose one life until your shadow is out. Then you will have to throw a flame at Jaffar to kill him (The Shadow & The Flame, get it?)

Gejmer Božo
01-04-2005, 03:07 PM
I've passed all levels on the original game, and finally got my hands on the second part :Brain: I noticed there are a lot more enemies, and one frustrating thing - it takes muuuuuch longer for him to jump after I press the button then on original game. I fell into the hole like zillion times! :ranting:

Martin1
02-04-2005, 09:38 AM
DreadWing, thank you very much. Following your recommendations I finally finished this game.

DCLeadboot
02-04-2005, 10:56 AM
While graphically better than its predecessor, I must confess that I found this one a bit too hard! Puzzles, traps, normal fighters and time switches, I can master, but my main problem was trying to fight those bloody heads! They don't even play fair! I get often killed by one of them, even when I have used the extra health cheat to gain the max 12 bottles! :wall:
In the end, this morning, I just jumped to the last level so that I could fight Jaffar and see the ending. :sneaky:
To be brutaly honest, I don't like picking my path through interminable mazes, when everytime you get killed you get sent all the way back to the start - especially when the cause is some ghostly head or super-poisonous snake. I want to get to grips with the enemy! ;)

BTW, the Jaffar cackle sounds vaguely familiar. Does anyone else agree that it reminds them of the Headless Horseman in Disney's Legend of Sleepy Hollow?
Along those lines, how can a ghost laugh like that when he doesn't have a head? :blink:

Beezil
03-04-2005, 02:20 AM
Like another user in this thread, I found that the game crashes on the second level (where you wake up on the island) when using VDM ... Has anyone found away around this? Please help if you have!

beezil
03-04-2005, 02:30 AM
Never mind - I got it working with dosbox and now it runs fine.

karareis
16-04-2005, 12:51 PM
iam in blue flame room i got 11 botle when i touch flam i die what will i do?

karareis
16-04-2005, 01:48 PM
okay guys i passed it thanks

Unknown Hero
16-04-2005, 05:38 PM
Originally posted by karareis@Apr 16 2005, 02:51 PM
iam in blue flame room i got 11 botle when i touch flam i die what will i do?
okay guys i passed it thanks

No problem! We will help you anytime! LOL

red_avatar
16-04-2005, 07:00 PM
Prince of Persia 1 was really really tough and the problem of it is the time limit combined with trial and error. I never played Prince of Persia 2 much because, while the setting was prettier, it seemed quite damn hard and the enemies were often frustrating. It's a good game though, but it seems nearly a must to use the cheats. Or maybe we're just used to having quicksave/quickload these days ;)

Eddie
28-04-2005, 07:36 PM
Originally posted by karareis@Apr 16 2005, 12:51 PM
iam in blue flame room i got 11 botle when i touch flam i die what will i do?
I'm having the same problem with the blue flame level. Can anyone help me out?

Cheers,

Eddie

Doubler
28-04-2005, 08:19 PM
Weren't you supposed to die there :blink: ?
Unsure about that though...

dr_st
28-04-2005, 08:55 PM
I remember when I was a kid, how I used to play both games (first PoP1, then PoP2), and how I learned to beat them, level by level.

Somehow I felt that PoP2 was so much better than the first. In fact, PoP2 is what I'd call a perfect game - great graphics, music, atmosphere, nice cutscenes, and above all - terrific gameplay. Yes, very hard at times, but somehow the challenges appealed to me.

Maybe it's because with PoP1 I had seen friends play and complete it before I started playing on my own, so it wasn't all my achievements. With PoP2 I did all by myself, with no one to help me, and that probably added to the fun factor.

But it's more than that - PoP2 had something that PoP1 didn't have - variety. In PoP1 you have 12 levels, all of which look just like the other (except different color schemes for dungeon and palace), the enemies are all the same (except a few special guards which are still just guards with swords, only they're better at it). The traps are also few - once you've seen the blades in level 3, you've seen it all. Only the shadow (reflection) and the invisible road in the last level add some variety.

PoP2, on the other hand plays across three different areas, each with its own traps and enemies, tricks, secrets and magical objects, and that's before you get to the final puzzle with Jaffar. Not to mention that the game looks colorful and much more alive (you gotta give credit to the technical aspects of the game too).

So all things accounted for, I stand by my words - PoP2 is better than the first in every way, and in fact I consider it one of the best games ever made.

Doubler
28-04-2005, 09:15 PM
Indeed PoP II is better then it's predecessor in many respects, and in general better then it for sure;
however I found the new graphics to have it's disadvantages too, like less smooth animations for example.
Personally I thought the combat in PoP I more fun too, but that's very argueable. I found PoP II slow to react at times...

And, for a plus: Spoken, spoken :ok: !

Christian IV
28-04-2005, 10:28 PM
:max: :bye:
Both POP 1 and POP 2 have their own charms and good
points I think, POP 1 has a direct and pure feeling, one
of the purest of all the games of its' genre I feel, you
have great control and therefore experience with the
main figure, and can experience the same direct needs to
achieve in the face of the dangers and challenges as in
real life....the colors are limited, but overall I think it
is really a fine game within the tme and as a classic.
POP 2 has a lot more going on, great cut scenes, story line
is expanded, and sympathetic, and the special effects are
amazing for the tme of its design, the traps and monsters
are hard, indeed especially racing the clock. I was frustrated
also by the heads and the snakes, and the temple
stages with those nasty bird men was hard as well. The
last fantasy stage is quite amazing in its own way, way
out there in terms of visuals. The newer versions of the game
leave me cold, they are too much like all the modern slick
shoot em ups, too violent and too fast for enjoyment
and savoring the experience.
POP live for ever! :ok:

dr_st
29-04-2005, 06:06 AM
To those who are frustrated with snakes - you do know that there isn't a single spot in PoP2 where you have to battle a snake face to face?

Christian IV
29-04-2005, 08:14 PM
:Titan:
I found it was essential to attack the snakes before they get
into their final hunch just before they bite the Prince, the
Prince can actually strike with his sword quite a bit beyond
his usual reach when he is hitting snakes, must be some
adjustment in the code for just this case. They aren't as bad
as they seem after the intial disgust with them. :blow: :cry:

that is an interesting point, they mostly sneak up from behind
indeed :kosta:

DCLeadboot
04-05-2005, 02:36 PM
I found a jolly effective tactic for killing the snakes. If you could find a safe way to do it, you can jump over the snakes. They don't turn and face you, but keep crawling, so slash them from behind without risk to your person! :sneaky:

The heads are annoying, yes! :ranting:
However, after bit of practice, I did manage to master them. They're a breeze, really, once you find Father's Sword! Nifty blade! :Titan:
You can also splatter them by pushing them back into a wall or dropping loose slabs on them, but these methods rely on luck and good management.

Christian IV
04-05-2005, 06:24 PM
:D
Yes the father's sword is longer and better, the behind
approach for snakes is better, they are slipery critters until
one gets the knack. the heads i found if you wait until just before they strike,
that is the best time to hit them, if you try to hit them before that they sort
of bob our of the way and then come back at you on the downswipe....

cheers

:ok: :ok:

Christian IV
15-06-2005, 01:17 PM
:D :D
Prince of Persia 2 and 1 are classics indeed in that they
combine challenging game play, controls, etc, with
a good story line....and mystery as you progress through
the levels. The later levels in Prince 2 are quite challenging indeed
I have not tried the newer releases of the Prince series,
but think it sounds like they have become like many other
simplisitc shoot em up (in this case stab them up, etc)
moronic violence treks. The older games are the best.
:ok: :ok:

rabadi
21-06-2005, 01:08 AM
Back in 1998 I ordered Prince of Persia 1 and 2 in a bundled CD-ROM, directly from Broderbund (I was in US at that time, so I was able to order it online, something that I am no longer able to do so now). Then I also purchased Prince of Persia 3D (sadly the CD-ROM is now damaged). I love all three games. Unfortunately I have not been able to play the newer Prince of Persia games, namely Sands of Time and Warrior Within (all my PCs are unable to play them, poor me, well I am saving money to buy a new one hopefully by end of this year).

I played Prince of Persia 1 back in 1991 or 1992 (or 1993, can't remember the precise time), and Prince of Persia 2 a few years later. Too bad Prince of Persia 1 & 2 on this site are now ESA protected. I haven't played them for several years now, but they are two among the best (action?) games I have ever played. Reading these threads does bring a nostalgic smile :D

vipin
21-06-2005, 11:40 AM
Tell me one thing guys! Ok the games are ESA protected, so that means I can't give them to anyone those games by email attachments? Would it be called piracy? I want more information on this ESA protection. Tell me where is in this site.
I love Prince of Persia 1 and 2. I have prince of persia 3d also, but never played beyong the second stage. I was in last stage of Prince of Persia 2, so I will go and end it now.
Thanx

A. J. Raffles
21-06-2005, 07:15 PM
Originally posted by vipin@Jun 21 2005, 11:40 AM
Tell me one thing guys! Ok the games are ESA protected, so that means I can't give them to anyone those games by email attachments? Would it be called piracy? I want more information on this ESA protection. Tell me where is in this site.
Yes, passing an ESA-protected game on to somebody else would be piracy, so don't do it.
For more information about ESA, try clicking one of the ESA-no go buttons. That should give you some information about what they do and a link to their website.

Nuke
21-06-2005, 09:10 PM
Originally posted by A. J. Raffles+Jun 21 2005, 07:15 PM****</div><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (A. J. Raffles @ Jun 21 2005, 07:15 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> ******QuoteBegin-vipin@Jun 21 2005, 11:40 AM
Tell me one thing guys! Ok the games are ESA protected, so that means I can't give them to anyone those games by email attachments? Would it be called piracy? I want more information on this ESA protection. Tell me where is in this site.
Yes, passing an ESA-protected game on to somebody else would be piracy, so don't do it.
For more information about ESA, try clicking one of the ESA-no go buttons. That should give you some information about what they do and a link to their website. [/b][/quote]
i red all the texts on ESA site but i still don't get why they do this to the old games.

A. J. Raffles
22-06-2005, 06:57 AM
They're not "doing" anything to the games. They're protecting the rights of the companies that own the games. If a company doesn't sell a game anymore, that doesn't necessarily mean it'll want it all over the web. Think about it this way: just because you haven't played with your old stuffed toys any more since you were five, you wouldn't want everybody else to be able to open the box in which you keep them and grab them. It's the companies' right to hold on to their rights to certain games, even if the games are no longer available. We may disagree with their decision to do so, but we'll just have to accept it.:)

Guest
05-08-2005, 04:52 PM
a video game gets grandpa of genre in 5 years :D

a15drian
30-10-2005, 02:15 PM
I Did it I did it I did it i finished it at last phew it was hard at the last level to find out how to kill the sultan so who has questions ask me

Gamefreak
30-10-2005, 10:01 PM
Originally posted by a15drian@Oct 30 2005, 03:15 PM
so who has questions ask me
Did you like the game? :P

JMS GAMES
03-11-2005, 12:54 PM
defeat sultan?

vipin
04-11-2005, 04:43 AM
Originally posted by JMS GAMES@Nov 4 2005, 02:54 AM
defeat sultan?
maybe he is talking about the villain "Jaffar"... but I am not sure because I was never able to end that last stage. :yawn: it was too tough puzzle!

a15drian
08-11-2005, 11:23 AM
Al you got to do is to go at a dummy and press back and forth al the time until you are glowing and then all the dummys disapier and then go up and fire with fire at him if he runs go and cach him and fire again until you got him ok :ok: :cheers:

PS: the ending is magnific :Brain:

tim
09-11-2005, 07:35 AM
once i reach jaffars palace none of the options buttons work for some reason. Save game, load game etc just dont work! im running it on DOSBOX. i think its a problem with the emulator. does anyone know of a better emulator (dont say VDMS sound, tried it and it freezes) or know how to fix this problem???

Guest
09-11-2005, 01:12 PM
No problemo guys, fixed it. I updated Dosbox and the options worked again

a15drian
09-11-2005, 01:26 PM
ok mine works fine without the dosbox mine is winxp home edition

sansanoafs
31-12-2005, 09:17 PM
what to do on the level that after you kill some heads, I think that they are 9) you appear in the desert....there's a statue of a horse...keep going right and there's a cliff....

I'm stuck there :cry:

a15drian
03-01-2006, 08:13 AM
Aaaaaaaa you got to go on those platformes above you and then jump on the horse statue and that's all but you must kill all the heads to do that.

Moppie
08-01-2006, 09:38 AM
K I'm playing the game (prince.exe -> not cheats.bat) and I reach the harbor part within one minute but I still cant gat on that ******* boat. I dont kill the gaurds that arent standing in my way. does it depend on the time or somethin else? I hate being stuck at lvl 1! :wall:

another_guest
08-01-2006, 10:32 AM
It doesn't depend on the time you take to get there.
When you reach the pier, start running towards the boat. At the end of the pier, jump (without stopping first). When prince reaches the back of the boat -that has started sailing away- press the up arrow and keep pressing it. This should cause prince to grab some ledge on the boat and pull himself up.

Can any of the other users confirm that it's the up arrow? I'm relatively sure, but it's been quite a while since I played Prince 2.

Moppie
08-01-2006, 12:53 PM
@another guest: thnx. gonna try that one. some other forum member said it depends on the time. but he said he was confused with PoP 1. :crazy:
It could also be the <SHIFT> key.

a15drian
09-01-2006, 11:48 AM
Yes up arrow yes it is and when are on the bridge or pier whatever just run to the bloat and jump straight and no stoping ok have fun with this game it's a cool game and then try Sands of Time and Warrior Within and the final The 2 Thrones these game rocks

Guest
11-01-2006, 06:52 AM
Tried it. Just jump with <UP> and grab the ledge with <SHIFT>. Then pull yourself up with <UP>.

Patrice Ragot
14-01-2006, 02:15 PM
Hello Guys!!! :bye:

I have just Finished POP1 and I am now playing POP2. Of course I have played them more than 10 years ago and found them EXCELENT. :ok:

Thanks to this forum I've managed to get into the cave and found the keys that needed to be pressed EXCEPT the equivalent of muck in POP1. Let me explain what I mean: In POP1 if you get close to an edge, by pressing SHIFT you do half a step so you can go to the borders of any trap, "rising spades" and things like that.
In POP2 Shift only worked for me in order to get a botle.

Can anyone please tell me how do I use the equivalent of my old "SHIFT" capabilities? :hairpull:
Or at least how to get to the border of an edge without falling... :rolleyes:

Thanks a lot

Patrice Ragot
14-01-2006, 02:37 PM
UUPPPPPPPPPPSSSSSSSS

Solved... Allways remember to have Num Lock unlock...

Cheers :cheers:

Guest
18-02-2006, 04:22 PM
hey i have a problem. the game freezes when i get of the ship. u know u wake up on a beach.. and it freezes... any solution for that?

a15drian
19-02-2006, 09:10 AM
huh??? it freezez i don't know why but i think it's the video card or i don't know youre window what windows are you using

Lord Of The Guns
19-03-2006, 02:01 PM
I just downloaded this recently for a little nostalgic gameplay (it came free with one of my familys first computers) but somehow I think I've stopped the cut scenes. I just jumped on the horse and was instantly teleported to the next level - no cool riding sequence for me. And I wonder, are there two versions: a crappier one and a better one? Mine seems pretty crummy compared to some of the screenshots I've seen and audio isn't as I remember it. Help would be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

a15drian
19-03-2006, 02:19 PM
well aaaaaa i don't know any crapier one but what kind of PC do you have

Lord Of The Guns
20-03-2006, 01:10 AM
Ergh, I don't really know my computers technical stats and such - but I don't think thats the problem. Maybe my fond memories built it up a little. Still, I'd like to know how to get the cutscenes back. Maybe I skipped too many, it didn't show me the carpet ride either. I don't know.

a15drian
20-03-2006, 01:55 PM
hmm maybe i know the problem MAYBE!!!! did you opened that hatch to get with the carpet out or not because if don't open those gates up the game crashes oookkkkkkk!!!!! :ok:

Lord Of The Guns
21-03-2006, 04:30 AM
Uh, no. The game doesn't crash if you don't open the gates - you DIE. Notice the big red stain on the carpet after you fly into it? Thats your BLOOD.

Freddie
25-03-2006, 05:09 PM
I cant beat the floating heads. I cant do it. I cant I cant I cant.

I play over and over again and I cant seem to get it. The timing just baffles me. They're either too far away and I cant reach or theyre in too close, chewing off my life two at a time. Every once in a while I can block and hurt them but theres no rhyme or reason to it-- it doesnt seem to fit any pattern as to when it works and when it doesnt.

I may throw my laptop out a window at this rate.

a15drian
26-03-2006, 10:42 AM
:roflol: :roflol: :roflol: no man he he he if you can't get them the 1st time you must put back ur sword and get out of there quick or you can just go back and come again to try again to kill him :ok:

guesst
12-04-2006, 05:02 PM
If anyone's reading this, I don't think the links to download go to PoP2. I think they go to a demo for PoP:WW, the new PoP game which is actually PoP5, but they call PoP2 for some reason.

Then again, I could be wrong.

Sri
22-04-2006, 10:38 AM
Originally posted by ROGI@Jan 4 2005, 07:47 PM
how to save game ? :eeeeeh:
:whistle: [FONT=Optima][SIZE=14][COLOR=blue]Press "ALT + O" options wil appear select save menu p

Guest
22-04-2006, 10:39 AM
press "alt + o" options wil appear
there save ur game

Raasted
22-04-2006, 12:52 PM
If anyone's reading this, I don't think the links to download go to PoP2. I think they go to a demo for PoP:WW, the new PoP game which is actually PoP5, but they call PoP2 for some reason.


Do you refer to Prince of Persia: Warrior Within?`Calling that new would be not be entirely accurate (a great game though). It's really amazing, the way the good people of Ubisoft have incorporated a fun (almost Tekken-like) combat-system in the series. Combat system is one thing, but you can really feel, that they have taken Jordan Mechner in on level-design-support - great game! :ok:

(sorry - that was a little :ot: )

/Raasted

JLmaximus
26-05-2006, 07:28 PM
Unfortunately, the download links provided on the synopsis page for this at abandonia take one to purchase pages for the latest 3D title in the series, which weighs in at a hefty 3.some-odd GIGS. Obviously, this is NOT the actual 'Prince of Persia' 2 game discussed on the pages, here.

Is this game still protected and has rights owned by someone, or is it possible to download a full copy from somewhere else other than the links provided? I'm not really able to find it on eMule or any of the other P2P networks, likely because of its primitive graphics...but I love such games and would be interested in checking it out. I tried a demo of the Mac version years ago and it was VERY fun.

maximumtoverdrive*yahoo.com

The Fifth Horseman
29-05-2006, 11:47 AM
I don't see any kind of button in the review, actually. No "Buy it", no "Get it", nor even "ESA No-Go".

guesst
29-05-2006, 04:11 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 29 2006, 11:47 AM) 232945</div>
I don't see any kind of button in the review, actually. No "Buy it", no "Get it", nor even "ESA No-Go".
[/b]

There is no button, but there are 3 download links. So what's the deal?

The Fifth Horseman
29-05-2006, 05:17 PM
The deal is, the links are placed in a different location then normally. Once someone got used to Abandonia's normal layout...

And of course, they all link to Warrior Within.

guesst
29-05-2006, 06:42 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(the_fifth_horseman @ May 29 2006, 05:17 PM) 233063</div>
The deal is, the links are placed in a different location then normally. Once someone got used to Abandonia's normal layout...

And of course, they all link to Warrior Within.
[/b]

Yes. That's what the "what's the deal" is about. Why do we have links to not-the-game and links to the game (or in this case the ESA no go button)?

Should we be putting links on all games that get mondern updates? Come on, somethings not right on this page.

Guest
02-06-2006, 08:55 AM
Why does all the links go to PoP 5?
I want the old PoP 2 and not PoP Warrior Within .....

Quintopotere
02-06-2006, 11:39 AM
I hope "we" are gaining some money for those links... :whistling:

However, PoP 2 is one of the best games ever!

a15drian
02-06-2006, 12:11 PM
well now PoP2 isn't the great game ever try the new PoP T2T now thats the great game ever made in all Prince of Persia series :D

Raasted
02-06-2006, 12:49 PM
well now PoP2 isn't the great game ever try the new PoP T2T now thats the great game ever made in all Prince of Persia series [/b]

Well.....I'm sitting with The Two Thrones right here, and indeed - it's a great great game....But so has all the Prince of Persia games been (excepting the one Jordan Mechner didn't have any influence on - Prince of Persia 3D)....Personally, my favorites are Prince of Persia (I) and Warrior Within (the dahaka-chases were brilliant). But as we have discussed before, me choosing PoP over PoP2 has something to do with a) The combat system, b) PoP having the "charm of the original".

/Raasted

Quintopotere
02-06-2006, 06:31 PM
I just can't understand why everyone seems to "hate" PoP 3D... I liked it so much :wub: , even if I have to admit that they could have made something better...
It seems the same occourring with Monkey Island 4... but that's another story...

Raasted
03-06-2006, 03:32 PM
Well, probably it's the same reason why (though i defenitely don't hate it) don't like PoP2 as much as PoP - Prince of Persia 3D became an entirely different genre than it had been - this you don't like, unless the game is thoroughly brilliant (which I think we all agree it wasn't) - The Sands of Time and it's to sucessors was indeed brilliant games, and was therefore accepted - and they stay more true to the original concept - the "right" mix between good combat, platform action and puzzle-solving.....And of course the new graphics introduced in the games also helped them gain ground.....

/Raasted

guesst
03-06-2006, 04:13 PM
The Sands of Time and it's to sucessors was indeed brilliant games, and was therefore accepted - and they stay more true to the original concept - the "right" mix between good combat, platform action and puzzle-solving.....And of course the new graphics introduced in the games also helped them gain ground.....
[/b]
Not to mention that blend of gaming and cinematic story telling that only Jordan Michner has been able to grace us with so far.

Raasted
03-06-2006, 06:25 PM
Indeed.....though an entirely different games-genre - "Act of War" blends cinematic story-telling and gaming very nicely too.....And the use of in-game graphics for most of the cut-scenes resembles the way of Warcraft III - and so does the quality of the "real" cinematics in the last 3 PoP-games - fantastic!


In a lot of ways Ubisoft resembles Blizzard - not only do both companies produce great great games (all the way back to Alone in the Dark and Black-Thorne/Warcraft I), and have great cinematics (as in Warcraft and PoP) - the storyline is also very important in most of their games.....I simply just love them :kosta:

/Raasted

#BlakhOle#
06-06-2006, 11:56 AM
So is anyone going to fix the links or, as the case may be, the no-go button? I was really hoping to get this as ive never played this one only number 1 (and SOT but thats irrelevant) and i would appreciate it if you would put me out of my misery :)

guesst
06-06-2006, 11:40 PM
Maybe someone should PM Kosta or someone else who could do something about it.

Okay, fine, I'll do it.

#BlakhOle#
07-06-2006, 07:24 AM
Go you :bleh:

guesst
08-06-2006, 11:39 AM
Hi!

Thanks for bringing it up! I've fixed it, so you have the nice shiny esa no go button there, tee-hee. Hope that won't bug people.

Cheers!
Kosta[/b]

a15drian
09-06-2006, 11:37 AM
i played from the 1st Prince of Persia to the last made exept for the 3D one Rats!!! I Like the Story its so cool and i like games with a cool story. Hope for a next Prince of Persia version please :D

#BlakhOle#
09-06-2006, 11:58 AM
Why is the second one esa protected but not the first one? :blink:

The Fifth Horseman
09-06-2006, 03:50 PM
Hell knows. Maybe both should be ESA-protected.

guesst
09-06-2006, 11:21 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(#BlakhOle# @ Jun 9 2006, 11:58 AM) 235427</div>
Why is the second one esa protected but not the first one? :blink:
[/b]

The first one's older. Older games sometimes aren't ESA protected. Perhaps there was in issue with the publisher and developer not being the same as in the second one. Who knows. Maybe you should download the first one quick just in case ESA discovers their blunder. You know, stock up.

#BlakhOle#
11-06-2006, 02:30 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(guesst @ Jun 10 2006, 09:21 AM) 235534</div>
The first one's older. Older games sometimes aren't ESA protected. Perhaps there was in issue with the publisher and developer not being the same as in the second one. Who knows. Maybe you should download the first one quick just in case ESA discovers their blunder. You know, stock up.
[/b]

Way ahead of ya :bleh: I went to download both a while ago and got the first before i found i couldnt get the second. If ESA decides to let a game go do they like send kosta an email or something, or do you juat have to check every now and again?

Guest
22-06-2006, 08:45 AM
Guys, I have problem with PoP2.
How can I load the game? It saves properly but in some reason I can't load it.
I open the save panel with alt+g, but alt+l don't work but other shortcuts don't work.

Grand Dad
22-06-2006, 09:18 AM
The problem with ESA is they probably don't know about all the games :brain: Good for gamers anyway! So make hay... :bleh:

Still POP 1 is the best. The new ones are technically very good but I find them to be more difficult...too complicated <_<

Shrek
22-06-2006, 09:25 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jun 22 2006, 09:45 AM) 238681</div>
Guys, I have problem with PoP2.
How can I load the game? It saves properly but in some reason I can't load it.
I open the save panel with alt+g, but alt+l don't work but other shortcuts don't work.
[/b]

Hum, have you read this?

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(me_lobo @ Mar 1 2005, 09:25 AM) 73278</div>
Originally posted by FreeFreddy@Jan 4 2005, 08:28 PM
ESC - pauses the game, any key to continue
CTRL+J - choose a joystick control. The game will be calibrated anew for the joystick
CTRL+K - choose a keyboard control
CTRL+R - end the game and return to the title sequence
CTRL+A - starts the game from the beginning of the current level
CTRL+S - the sound will be switched completely off. To switch it on again, same key combination
CTRL+G - save the current game on HD
CTRL+L - press it during the intro sequence to load a last saved game
CTRL+Q - quit the game and return to Dos / Windows / DosBox
SPACE-button - shows, how much time remains yet

Have fun yet. ;)
While in different keyb mode, try alt+"" instead of ctrl+"" :-)
[/b]

The Fifth Horseman
22-06-2006, 09:34 AM
If ESA decides to let a game go do they like send kosta an email or something, or do you juat have to check every now and again?[/b]
The latter, check every now and then. However, if the game is released as freeware, that fact will make itself known.

Guest
22-06-2006, 09:41 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Shrek @ Jun 22 2006, 09:25 AM) 238692</div>

Hum, have you read this?


[/b]
Yes, I tried it before but I coludn't open the load panel.
Nor alt or ctrl is working.

Deko
10-07-2006, 11:17 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Jan 27 2005, 05:42 PM) 57531</div>
try alt+o and it will open a shell, at least in my version does! after a lot of search : )
[/b]

I already try all the stuff in setup.exe
but i can´t make the game to play the music, only the sound...
can anyone help me ?

b2
15-10-2006, 11:41 PM
:wallbash: can you tell me the copy asked after the quick sand plllllllllllzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

The Fifth Horseman
16-10-2006, 01:20 PM
The game should be cracked. Press [ENTER] to proceed.

Guest
16-02-2007, 11:58 PM
I cant get past the start of level 11... That stuff about ''timing jump'' just sucks, too hard and dumb.

dolphan
20-02-2007, 02:09 PM
Wow, PoP was the first game I ever played, never knew it had a sequel!

ahmet
27-02-2007, 05:42 AM
i cannot run this game.. i see a warning like"please overlook ur pif file. " what is it?
what should i do??

The Fifth Horseman
27-02-2007, 10:15 AM
You are trying to run the game in plain Windows. I strongly suggest you use DosBox (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net) instead.
You can download it here (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/download.php?main=1).

You might want to check out the official DosBox FAQ (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php), and particularly this part of it. (http://dosbox.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?page=Basic+Setup+and+Installation+of+Dos Box) It is quite helpful for users unfamiliar with DosBox.

Guest
28-03-2007, 06:43 PM
Does this actually have a virus? Then what do I do? And does this work on XP like POP1?

Scatty
28-03-2007, 06:48 PM
Did you try it in Windows XP? After you do, you'll have your answer.
I don't think there's a virus in the game's archive though.

MJ12
19-04-2007, 03:07 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Scatty @ Mar 28 2007, 06:48 PM) 285355</div>
Did you try it in Windows XP? After you do, you'll have your answer.
I don't think there's a virus in the game's archive though.
[/b]

Hello,

I'm in the blue fire fase. What I shoud do? :wallbash:

Dave
06-06-2007, 11:06 PM
That's my situation:
A bridge, an immortal skeleton (yeah that one!)....and a door...
When I go beyond him he closes the door...and I can't pass (because that prince is slow!Or maybe it's me :whistling: )
Any advise? Thanks


Edited: Ok..I've found an advise in this topic...I'll try tomorrow!

Dave
16-06-2007, 06:09 PM
I'm near the end (I think), this level is full of closed doors and I think there are different ways to finish it...
I've reached that beautiful fire sword that kick me away...how can I pass it or take it?

Japo
17-06-2007, 04:42 PM
Just google for a walkthrough.

Dave
18-06-2007, 03:50 PM
It's all ok, I've passed that level, now I'm at the blue flame and "I must die"..well it's original LOL

Guest
06-08-2007, 12:13 AM
THIS GAME RAWKS

confused
18-08-2007, 07:38 PM
I got a problem. When I picked up fathers sword the cutscene starting playing and I didn't want to wait so I tried to skip it by pressing ESC but the game crashed when I did that. WHat's goin' on???

Help please

mdeba
19-08-2007, 04:10 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(confused @ Aug 19 2007, 05:38 AM) 305401</div>
I got a problem. When I picked up fathers sword the cutscene starting playing and I didn't want to wait so I tried to skip it by pressing ESC but the game crashed when I did that. WHat's goin' on???

Help please
[/b]

worked fine for me the other day. what version of the game/dosbox are you using?

Did you try retrying the level and not skipping the cutscene?

You could always just use a cheat to skip that particular level. not much after that IIRC.

confused
20-08-2007, 01:22 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mdeba @ Aug 19 2007, 05:10 PM) 305494</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(confused @ Aug 19 2007, 05:38 AM) 305401
I got a problem. When I picked up fathers sword the cutscene starting playing and I didn't want to wait so I tried to skip it by pressing ESC but the game crashed when I did that. WHat's goin' on???

Help please
[/b]

worked fine for me the other day. what version of the game/dosbox are you using?

Did you try retrying the level and not skipping the cutscene?

You could always just use a cheat to skip that particular level. not much after that IIRC.
[/b][/quote]


I've got DOSBOX 0.71. I don't quite the games version #. I got of this site though, if that helps.

tomi_kpo10
06-09-2007, 03:28 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Unknown Hero @ Apr 16 2005, 06:38 PM) 96192</div>
Originally posted by karareis@Apr 16 2005, 02:51 PM
iam in blue flame room i got 11 botle when i touch flam i die what will i do?
okay guys i passed it thanks[/b]

No problem! We will help you anytime! LOL
[/b]


Hi everybody :)

I have arrived to the blue flame and when i got close to it i die, someone could tell me what the hell should i do? THANKS

Moonrider
06-09-2007, 05:39 PM
I have exactly the same problem. It doesn't matter whether I skip the cutscene or not - The Dosbox crashes.

I'd rather not skip the level. Cheating is something that pollutes my gameplay satisfaction.

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(mdeba @ Aug 19 2007, 05:10 PM) 305494</div>
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(confused @ Aug 19 2007, 05:38 AM) 305401
I got a problem. When I picked up fathers sword the cutscene starting playing and I didn't want to wait so I tried to skip it by pressing ESC but the game crashed when I did that. WHat's goin' on???

Help please
[/b]

worked fine for me the other day. what version of the game/dosbox are you using?

Did you try retrying the level and not skipping the cutscene?

You could always just use a cheat to skip that particular level. not much after that IIRC.
[/b][/quote]

Dave
06-09-2007, 06:29 PM
Hi everybody :)
I have arrived to the blue flame and when i got close to it i die, someone could tell me what the hell should i do? THANKS[/b]
"Who steal the blue flame must die"...die and wait :whistling:

Gary_Oak
07-09-2007, 05:09 PM
The games runs to fast at 3000 cycles in DOSbox (at least to me), any recomendations?

The Fifth Horseman
10-09-2007, 09:27 AM
It's obvious. Decrease the cycles.

Guest
26-09-2007, 02:28 PM
To all the people who have problem that I quoted in the previous post, I've got a solution:

1. Run the game using DosBox until you arrive to a point where the game would crash.
2. Save the game (Alt + G) and quit it. Colse the DosBox
3. Run the game using VDMSound
4. Load the previously saved game (Alt + L). Pass safely through the "crashing point" (the game shouldn't crash, at least it didn't in my case)
5. Arrive at the next level and save again.
6. Close the game and run it again using DosBox.
7. Run for it :) !

By the way [little spoiler]

The Blue flame riddle was, IMO, too unclear. And during the final level I activated the blue flame power only by luck. There should be better guidance there. Nevertheless after all these years I finally rescued the princess again :)

Moonrider
26-09-2007, 02:29 PM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Guest @ Sep 26 2007, 03:28 PM) 313294</div>
To all the people who have problem that I quoted in the previous post, I've got a solution:
[/b]

[I quoted = Moonrider quoted]

KING
13-10-2007, 11:24 AM
IN THE 4TH GAME IM FIGHTING AN UNBEATBLE SKALETON ON THE BRIGDE HOW I CAN GO TO THE DOOR BEFORE THE SKALETON

Dave
13-10-2007, 11:28 AM
<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Unknown Hero @ Mar 4 2005, 09:44 PM) 74890</div>
You must fight skeleton and switch sides with him (you must be left). Don't go far left, because the ugly skeleton will shut the door. When the bridge opens press left and shift.
[/b]
The answer was in this topic.

Daan
14-10-2007, 12:44 PM
Hi guys,

First off I want to say thank you for this site I love it! It brings back memories, and especially this game. I played it all the time when I was young. It was too hard for me back then and I never got passed the skeleton on the bridge. Well today I made it and I'm determinned(?) to beat this game. Only problem is it runs a bit slow. Since this game is all about timing it's very important to get a smooth framerate. I'm now batteling the flying heads, and it's pretty hard when the game is lagging all the time.
I don't know what could be the problem. I just updated dosbox and I know my pc can match the sytem requirements obviously. If anyone can help it would be much appreciated.

Regards Daan

Hiking Viking
15-10-2007, 08:09 AM
Raise the CPU cycles to 5000-6000 (CTRL+12 increases, CTRL+11 decreases). Last week I played the game through with those cycles, and the game had just some minor lag on the last levels.

I had also the problem where the game crashes when I take father's sword. However, the crash didn't always occur. I think the crash probability was something like 50%. If I remember right, when you grab the sword, sometimes you take some damage and sometimes not. Maybe the game crashes always when you get killed at that point or always when you don't take damage or always when you do take damage... I think I should test it...

I found also another crash point, where the game seemed to crash every single time (when you do things in a specific way). Near the blue flame you have to do that big jump behind or at the end of the loose platform. If your steps go in a specific way and you time your jump so that you would jump at another part of the loose platform, the prince decides not to jump at all and runs straight to the pit, and then the game crashes. Fortunately, there's a saving point very near. And what's more, you most probably die and respawn at it before you get to that crash point, and then you possibly realize to save the game at that point, just to save time.

That reminds me, the jumping system really sucks in PoP2. In the prequel, the jumping system was much better. It auto-adjusted the run steps so that you could always jump as close to edges as possible. In PoP2, if your steps have wrong rhythm, it might not be possible to jump over a big gap. In the level 11 or 12 in a specific place colliding with a half-opened gate before jumping would always doom the jump to fail. However, both games had this annoying feature or bug that when your legs or middle body hits an edge in the end of a jump, you might not be able to grab that edge anymore.

Maybe the father's sword crash also needs you to be at certain position... try to grab it from different positions :S

the fall guy
01-12-2007, 02:39 PM
Hiking Viking wrote:

"...That reminds me, the jumping system really sucks in PoP2. In the prequel, the jumping system was much better. It auto-adjusted the run steps so that you could always jump as close to edges as possible. In PoP2, if your steps have wrong rhythm, it might not be possible to jump over a big gap. In the level 11 or 12 in a specific place colliding with a half-opened gate before jumping would always doom the jump to fail. However, both games had this annoying feature or bug that when your legs or middle body hits an edge in the end of a jump, you might not be able to grab that edge anymore...."

Well, I agree the jumping is different than in PoP1, but not that much. It took quite some experiments and I was close to throwing my PC out of the window, but finally I found out how to master most of the jumps:

In PoP1, it required MORE THAN 2 FLOOR-TILES to set up a running jump, in PoP2 you get along with EXACTLY 2 TILES. That is if you stand on a two tile wide ledge, you can do a running jump if you start the run from the far edge.

The drawback is that the timing window for running jumps has become quite narrow with a high chance of jumping either too early or not at all when trying to take the gaps as they come at full speed like in PoP1.

Luckily, you hardly need to do so at all in Pop2 as in most cases you can proceed slowly. If you place the prince (nearly) exactly two tiles away from the desired jump-off-point before starting the running jump he won't mix it up - not even the last jump at the level with the horsie or at the 2nd level at the flame/birdmen-temple.

Gomesss
26-03-2008, 01:14 PM
I can't play the game. It appears.

Check your file pif.

What should i do?

The Fifth Horseman
26-03-2008, 01:25 PM
Run the game in DOSBox.

Gomesss
26-03-2008, 01:33 PM
give me the site please.

:)

Rogue
26-03-2008, 01:47 PM
How about DOSBox tutorial (http://www.total-emu.org/index.php?page=DosBox-Index)?

The Fifth Horseman
26-03-2008, 03:11 PM
We also have a stickied guide in our Troubleshooting forum: http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?t=14406

Mousazz
10-06-2008, 05:11 PM
You're wrong. Gameplay HAS changed. It has got monsters (instead of your average every day human, human, which every other later prince of persia game lacked), different puzzles and better swordfights (ctrl button instead of shift, which lets you unsheathe your sword at ANY time). TTFN (ta ta for now...:D)

yoga
21-06-2008, 04:09 PM
Do you remember the battle with immortal skeleton on the rocking bridge?
And following crack of the bridge? The moment I never forget:
Sweating yog waiting for the crack and trying to catch the safe edge, returning back asap!
Nice game..:cheesy:

aniljain
31-01-2009, 04:49 AM
When I run Prince of persia 2 I get an error "Invalid Startup directory". Any idea why is the error coming?
If any one has workable download of Prince Of Persia 2 for Windows XP please mail me at [NO MAIL PLEASE]

I hope I'll get a mail soon!!!

Thanks in advance!

Cheers
Anil

dosraider
31-01-2009, 06:02 AM
When I run Prince of persia 2 I get an error "Invalid Startup directory". Any idea why is the error coming?l

Run the game in DOSBox.
Yep.

I hope I'll get a mail soon!!!
Doubtful.

But if you really want mail we always could register you on some Nigerian listings ...

Maxor127
05-05-2009, 09:41 AM
Very good game. I still need to finish it.

BranjoHello
20-06-2009, 11:33 PM
Good sequel, new graphics are cool I just don't like how our Prince look, that turban shit and stuff. Also action elements are improved I would say.

blurblulu
28-08-2009, 02:36 AM
this game is actually compatible with windows xp
, don't need dos box to play this game

right click at prince.exe then customize the memory to be auto

The Fifth Horseman
28-08-2009, 04:40 AM
And then you probably won't have sound...

Luchsen
28-08-2009, 10:57 AM
You don't need a hula hoop to swing your hips, but it's more fun, especially when there's sand in the tube.

Capo
25-06-2010, 06:34 PM
Aarrggggg, the time again, the game is already enough hard, why Jordan, why ? :cry:

Maxor127
25-06-2010, 09:30 PM
I never did win this. I took a break from playing and then forgot where I was and what I was supposed to be doing.

Capo
27-06-2010, 06:16 PM
Two question: Why in the level you reach with the magic carpet the door to the next level is already open at the beggining of the level ? :omg:

What the use of the potion that reverse the screen upside down ? :wacko:

dosraider
27-06-2010, 07:28 PM
What the use of the potion that reverse the screen upside down ? :wacko:
You will need that to reach an exit somewhere ....................

Capo
29-06-2010, 06:07 PM
The flying heads are seriously ruining my mental sanity :o

eugene425
29-06-2010, 06:20 PM
The flying heads are seriously ruining my mental sanity :o
Imho<Conversely flying heads is one of the easiest opponents. I was a snake at first frightened to horror.

By the way, so if the conversation went about this game. If someone is not difficult, I needed a single board. Somewhere near the end of the game I got stuck in a kind of castle, where I closed the door and no further progress. Maybe somebody knows what?:huh:

Professor Oak
29-06-2010, 07:48 PM
By the way, so if the conversation went about this game. If someone is not difficult, I needed a single board. Somewhere near the end of the game I got stuck in a kind of castle, where I closed the door and no further progress. Maybe somebody knows what?:huh:
Could it be that the Copyright Protection has struck again?

hunvagy
29-06-2010, 08:42 PM
I think it's the place where you have to get the flame. You have to die to get it. Or if it's at the end, you have to change into the flame form. Hold shift and then left-right-left-right until you change.

eugene425
30-06-2010, 01:27 PM
I think it's the place where you have to get the flame. You have to die to get it. Or if it's at the end, you have to change into the flame form. Hold shift and then left-right-left-right until you change.
There,
http://osnes.ru/bd/imgbigsnes/4644.jpg http://osnes.ru/bd/imgbigsnes/4645.jpg http://s.rimg.info/4883edcddd1e27d4596aa4f7e55f7615.gif (http://www.abandonia.com/files/games/51/Prince%20of%20Persia%202%20-%20The%20Shadow%20&%20the%20Flame_6.png):OK:

I think it's the place where you have to get the flame. You have to die to get it. Or if it's at the end, you have to change into the flame form. Hold shift and then left-right-left-right until you change.
show screenshot, where you think I'm stuck. If it is not difficult.:doh:

Capo
30-06-2010, 04:51 PM
Imho<Conversely flying heads is one of the easiest opponents. I was a snake at first frightened to horror.

Easiest ? Are you kidding me ? Good that at least now i have a decent sword.

One question: Is fundamental to take almost all the increase health potions ?
Is getting harder and harder and i just want to end the level :crybaby:

eugene425
01-07-2010, 04:40 PM
Easiest ? Are you kidding me ? Good that at least now i have a decent sword.
In the ruins of the old town will inevitably encounter problems with flying
heads. At first it seems that the sword to kill them altogether impossible, but it is not
so! You just need to apply the sword chopping blows in combination with an arrow pointing forward (ie left or right - depending on the situation) or arrow
forwards and upwards. The development of this method of destruction goals may take some time, but then it will be easy.

Yes. And from me personally: should beat her once, as hiss.:woot:

One question: Is fundamental to take almost all the increase health potions ?
Is getting harder and harder and i just want to end the level :crybaby:
I have in the end (where I got stuck) have a dozen lives, but did not become easier.
What specific level? Describe, or better yet laid out a screenshot from the place where you're stuck.:max:

Eugene - please edit your posts to add your thoughts - and don't double post? Unless you can't see the edit button? It should be next to "Report!" ~~arete

TotalAnarchy
01-07-2010, 05:06 PM
One question: Is fundamental to take almost all the increase health potions ?
Is getting harder and harder and i just want to end the level :crybaby:

I usually aimed at getting all of them, but if the sidepath was to difficult I skipped them, because generally I try passing the levels without losing health and if I losed some I just reloaded the current level. So in the end, the upgrades are not that important if you try to master the combat, but since that's difficult too, you should try to get most of them.

Capo
01-07-2010, 05:57 PM
If you lose one single health you realod the level ? That is insane :omg:

In the ruins of the old town will inevitably encounter problems with flying
heads. At first it seems that the sword to kill them altogether impossible, but it is not


Lucky in the fortress there is any stupid flying head :sneaky:

I have in the end (where I got stuck) have a dozen lives, but did not become easier.
What specific level? Describe, or better yet laid out a screenshot from the place where you're stuck.:max:

Im not really stuck, i dont know if i need more health and if the remainng time is enough.The level is the 11. Time remaining 31 minutes.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9052/prince000.png

eugene425
01-07-2010, 06:10 PM
If you lose one single health you realod the level ? That is insane :omg:



Lucky in the fortress there is any stupid flying head :sneaky:



Im not really stuck, i dont know if i need more health and if the remainng time is enough.The level is the 11. Time remaining 31 minutes.

http://img337.imageshack.us/img337/9052/prince000.png
I'm at this level were 49 minutes left, but lives on less than one.:whops: Where did you get?

hunvagy
01-07-2010, 06:42 PM
This seems to be the place.. try watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeRmqVd_bWw
The level with the flame comes after this I think.

eugene425
01-07-2010, 06:51 PM
This seems to be the place.. try watching this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeRmqVd_bWw
The level with the flame comes after this I think.
Yes, this level is not very complicated, it is purely vertical, and there 4 or 5 guards in one place.

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Yes, this level is not very complicated, it is purely vertical, and there 4 or 5 guards in one place.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytYyz1TXIGY

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Sorry.So I can edit.

Lulu_Jane
02-07-2010, 08:41 AM
I have removed the last few posts and put them in a thread - HERE. (http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/showthread.php?p=408663#post408663) This is where we can solve the edit button problem.

Please keep this thread for game talk only.

Capo
11-07-2010, 04:49 PM
In level 11 there is another sword but i have managed to finish the level very quickly ( thanks to the genius) without taking it, is important or i can leave it ?

eugene425
11-07-2010, 06:25 PM
In level 11 there is another sword but i have managed to finish the level very quickly ( thanks to the genius) without taking it, is important or i can leave it ?
Game important to finish, but a sword to take optional.

TotalAnarchy
12-07-2010, 08:50 AM
The 2nd sword is way too weak. Better take the 3rd, I say.

Capo
12-07-2010, 03:33 PM
That is the fourth sword, not the third, the third is the one of your father.

Edit: Gosh, the stupid flaming sword cant be picked up, how to waste 2 hours.

Game important to finish, but a sword to take optional.

What ? :huh:

eugene425
13-07-2010, 02:10 AM
The 2nd sword is way too weak. Better take the 3rd, I say.
Wgat you mean?
That is the fourth sword, not the third, the third is the one of your father.

Edit: Gosh, the stupid flaming sword cant be picked up, how to waste 2 hours.



What ? :huh:
Last guard (in front of the sword) to kill you. After that, wait a minute - the sword was taken.

Capo
14-07-2010, 05:52 PM
What about the spider zone ? Nothing happend, i only see some random enemy :whops:

eugene425
15-07-2010, 06:23 AM
What about the spider zone ? Nothing happend, i only see some random enemy :whops:
You see, flying head is you do not seem complicated.:smile2:
You may try that. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1qQguWEkxA&feature=related

Capo
15-07-2010, 05:05 PM
The level im talking about is the one after this, how many guards i have to kill ? :omg:

_r.u.s.s.
15-07-2010, 05:54 PM
just look on the related videos where it says `last level`, there are info on everything, even how many guards do you have to kill (see the captions during the video)

eugene425
15-07-2010, 06:00 PM
Edit by Paco:
No Doublepost!!!
just look on the related videos where it says `last level`, there are info on everything, even how many guards do you have to kill (see the captions during the video)
Ну ты ж видишь, это ж басурманы, привыкли к буржуйскому барству, сами думать не хотят. Можно так подумать, что в инете нет прохождения последнего уровня.
The level im talking about is the one after this, how many guards i have to kill ? :omg:
ahh. This is final level/ You must look at there http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF-WbOYEUF4&feature=related. Thats all. Show your screen with your best times if you done.
P.S.Better yet, once here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qglhp4ACY1Q&feature=related
Guards? Ehh, you do not kill him, coz is a joke. Wrong way of game.

Capo
16-07-2010, 01:14 AM
just look on the related videos where it says `last level`, there are info on everything, even how many guards do you have to kill (see the captions during the video)

Too much spolier, thats why i asked here :doh2:

_r.u.s.s.
16-07-2010, 01:43 AM
it says: you have to fight enemies until you have 12 energy points (energy drinks drop from them, so 12 health i guess)

then you need to turn to shadow by holding shift and pressing left and right keys repetitively, after that go up and to the right...

Capo
16-07-2010, 04:22 PM
You can go right ? That change everythingh! Thanks russ.

Finished, little review:

Im a little disappointed by this game, the "new" jumping and combat system is not precise like in the first game, and that make the game too much frustrating. For all the rest, graphics, sound, story and level design, this sequel beat his predecessor.

3/5

eugene425
18-07-2010, 02:04 AM
You can go right ? That change everythingh! Thanks russ.

Finished, little review:

Im a little disappointed by this game, the "new" jumping and combat system is not precise like in the first game, and that make the game too much frustrating. For all the rest, graphics, sound, story and level design, this sequel beat his predecessor.

3/5
Well, now show your screen with your best times if you done.

Capo
18-07-2010, 03:50 PM
18 minutes :rolleyes:

eugene425
23-07-2010, 06:02 PM
18 minutes :rolleyes:
I do not believe, show.;)

camilowish
20-01-2011, 10:38 PM
Got the english manual on PDF for this title. Anyone knows how can I upload it???

Paco
21-01-2011, 09:39 AM
Got the english manual on PDF for this title. Anyone knows how can I upload it???

Please make a Thread here (http://www.abandonia.com/vbullet/forumdisplay.php?f=105) and we will send you the FTP-Info where you can upload it.

Taterfyrings
20-09-2011, 05:07 PM
I have been playing this game recently, but I have a problem with the timer. When I started level 5 (the one after the bridge) it said that I only had 10 minutes left, so I reloaded my save on level 4, and found out that it started with only 15 minutes left there. Naturally, I reloaded level 3, and here there is no time limit, so I figured the timer had not yet started. So I completed the level pretty fast in a few minutes, but when I enter level 4 it once again says that there is only 15 minutes left, wtf? Is this because I have died a few times on level 1 or 2? Or is it because I am using reloading? No matter what, it would be nice to know what I should do, because I really want to complete this game (love the first one).

MrFlibble
20-09-2011, 06:40 PM
Somehow that reminded me of the ability to skip a few first levels without cheating in the first Prince of Persia - but you would be left with only 15 minutes, not being able to finish the game on time. Maybe there's a similar option in Prince of Persia 2, and you somehow activated it? Normally, you should have 75 minutes when the timer starts (after the cutscene with the Princess trying to alert her father about the fake Prince).

I guess your best bet is to restart the game and play from the beginning. Saving and loading a game should not affect the game timer in any way, so use that in case you lose and have to restart a level.

Taterfyrings
22-09-2011, 07:47 AM
Somehow that reminded me of the ability to skip a few first levels without cheating in the first Prince of Persia - but you would be left with only 15 minutes, not being able to finish the game on time. Maybe there's a similar option in Prince of Persia 2, and you somehow activated it? Normally, you should have 75 minutes when the timer starts (after the cutscene with the Princess trying to alert her father about the fake Prince).

I guess your best bet is to restart the game and play from the beginning. Saving and loading a game should not affect the game timer in any way, so use that in case you lose and have to restart a level.

Yeah, thanks, I did that and now it works properly. But of course I got into another problem. After picking up the sword of your father, the game crahed. I have seen this problem described earlier in this thread, but could not find any answers, so I would be grateful for any help.

Its a good game by the way, however, I feel the first game is a bit better due to a higher focus on exploration and plattforming and swordfights. In PoP2 it feels like there is much more die and repeat, and also quite a few of the enemies like the heads and snakes and the skull on the bridge rerally feels more like luck than skill to beat. Anyways, its nice to play a Prince of Persia game in 2D again :)

MrFlibble
23-09-2011, 08:26 PM
Not sure of this might help, but if you're playing in DOSBox, the crashes may be related to the use of extended (or maybe expanded memory): IIRC, for some reason the game acts weirdly if something of this is enabled. This problem should be covered on the game's compatibility page at dosbox.com:
http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=198&letter=P

Atrium
10-11-2012, 10:12 PM
This game sucks. I can't believe how much of a nosedive it took from the first game. What made the first one so great was the fluidity of the mechanics and the unique platforming.

Two's mechanics absolutely suck by comparison, I have no idea why. I can't count how many times I've died because the game simply didn't register my button presses. It gives the game a totally unfair challenge, and basically takes the difficulty of the first one and turns it up to 11. Secondly, why is there so much emphasis on combat in a platforming game? The combat is, too put it bluntly, not very good in this game, and should be an occasional thing.

I guess this is a learning lesson for developers; don't fix what ain't broke.

Scatty
15-11-2012, 02:34 PM
don't fix what ain't broke.
That which doesn't evolve in cadence with time, is condemned to die and be forgotten.

Atrium
15-11-2012, 05:12 PM
That which doesn't evolve in cadence with time, is condemned to die and be forgotten.
Prince of Persia has reached legendary status. Most people don't even know that Prince of Persia 2 exists. I think that says it all.

yoga
16-11-2012, 08:43 AM
Prince of Persia has reached legendary status. Most people don't even know that Prince of Persia 2 exists. I think that says it all.

Yes, PoP (and Doom 2) are the Games.
:D

Capo
16-11-2012, 04:31 PM
Actually i liked more Pop2 than Pop :ph34r:

yoga
16-11-2012, 06:54 PM
Actually i liked more Pop2 than Pop :ph34r:

Si, Caro Capo, i respect your opinion,

but, but, very politely, if You do not mind

PoP is like the first kiss.
:whistling:

Eagle of Fire
16-11-2012, 08:49 PM
What I like is the review. It is plainly stated several times in the review that this game clearly suck in comparison to the original... But since the graphics are neat and it's the second of a series which the first game is a classic... Let's give it a 4.

WTF?


I guess this is a learning lesson for developers; don't fix what ain't broke.
Unfortunately developers never learned that lesson and even went further away from it as time passed.

TotalAnarchy
17-11-2012, 05:24 AM
I think I decided to preserve the original score given by Kosta. But never mind that. While the game sucks in comparison to the original, it holds well on its own. In this game I think I liked combat the most. The varied locations clearly give an additional incentive to play the game till the end.

Eagle of Fire
17-11-2012, 05:34 AM
Sorry... But you said several times that the control were unresponsive.

That's something I'd completely consider as game breaker.

Furthermore:
If you have the patience of a monk, and the spirit of a warrior you'll simply love the game. Otherwise, the frustration that comes with learning every level corner and suffering death countless times before you understand how to avoid it will certainly take you closer to insanity. And don't worry - nobody will laugh at you if you cheat in this game!

Please explain how you can have so high a rating with such flaws?

I really think it should be changed to reflect more the current review. Right now the rating and the review are so disparate it's a joke on its own.

Capo
17-11-2012, 03:23 PM
Is true than jumping is a little harder than the original but i wont call it "game braking", also the final part is pure genius.

Atrium
18-11-2012, 08:58 PM
Sorry... But you said several times that the control were unresponsive.

That's something I'd completely consider as game breaker.

Furthermore:


Please explain how you can have so high a rating with such flaws?

I really think it should be changed to reflect more the current review. Right now the rating and the review are so disparate it's a joke on its own.
I got stuck on an extremely long section in level 10 about 2 weeks ago and haven't touched it since (probably tried it 20+ times). I'll get around to finish it, solely so that I can tell myself I beat all of the PoP games.

I would never play this game for fun though.

Japo
18-11-2012, 09:17 PM
I absolutely loved this game! I wouldn't say it's better than the first one, as that would be an unfair thing to say of the older one, but this is a perfect sequel. I've heard people complaining that jumping is even more difficult than in the first one, but I found it initially difficult in both, but feasible to master. I didn't play both games in a row, I guess I may have got used to everything. The only difference I noticed--besides the more colorful graphics and the more varied scenarios--was that swordfighting was indeed quite more difficult, but that meant better. I give it a 5.

Scatty
18-11-2012, 10:08 PM
As much as I understand, there wouldn't be Prince of Persia 3 (which was quite horrible on it's own, admittedly) without this second one, even if the first game might have been the better one. Without the second game the first game would probably stay forgotten and a classic curiosity.
And without the third game in the series there wouldn't be the following ones, which are much better made. There's even a (in my opinion) quite good movie made based on one of the later series.

Atrium
27-11-2012, 03:14 AM
Well, I beat it. I buckled down for 2 nights, kept my frustration at bay (as best I could) and resisted the temptation to cheat. :p

Kudos to levels 10 and 13 for being some of the hardest levels I've ever faced in video gaming. The last level was a pleasant surprise with how easy it was after the nightmarishs level before it.

MrFlibble
30-11-2012, 01:56 PM
I've played both PoP and PoP2, and I'm a long-time fan of the first game. Never noticed any problems with controls (unlike Zorro (http://www.mobygames.com/game/dos/zorro) for example). Frustrating areas and tough opponents? Yes, PoP2 does have that. I'll also be honest and tell that I did not figure out how to steal the flame by myself - I read a FAQ but IIRC I actually read it before playing the game (I got that FAQ with the Dirty Little Helper and read it because it was written by the same person who wrote a very good, fun to read FAQ for the first Prince of Persia game). But controls? I'd say they're nigh perfect in both games.

PoP2 sure is different from the first instalment in a number of aspects, and IMO it has lost something that was in the original game. However I wouldn't go so far as to say that the game is bad compared to its predecessor. True, I would have much preferred the second game to be something along the lines of the excellent SNES version (http://www.mobygames.com/game/snes/prince-of-persia), but PoP2 fares quite well on its own too.

Japo
30-11-2012, 07:05 PM
Maybe some people are using bad dosbox settings and that's why controls get unresponsive? Was POP2 protected or real mode?